we to my least, jules polonetsky. next to him, we david bit cower. departmentdepartment of justice.e have chris calabrese, vice president of center for democracy and technology policy. bruce heiman, practice ace area leader of polly and regulatory practice. morgan reed, director of association of competitive technology, the app association. and ryan hagemann, policy analyst at niskanen center. so thanks to all of you for being here. jules, why don't we start with you? >> thanks and i will be brief because i'm confident dan and crew invited before they invited this lineup of leaders in the debate so i will speak with some humility and set a little bit after opening tone. rare for those of you who know me rare to speak for ability in the think tank business. don't laugh that much. when you're in the think tank business you're business is to think, more you think with loud and strident views better you are apparently but i'm really humbled by this issue frankly. although we've written in support of strong krypto and insuring strong protection barring backdoors, i will tell you this is

first to my left, jules polonetsky, who is executive director and co-chair of the future privacy forumen next to him is david bitkower, principal deputy assistant attorney general in the criminal division of the department of justice. then we have chris calabrese, vice president of policy at the center for democracy and technology. bruce heiman, who is a practice area leader of k.l. and gates's policy and regulatory practice. morgan reed, executive director of the association for competitive technology, the app association. and ryan hagemann, technology and civil liberties policy analyst at the niskanen center. thanks to all of you for being here. jules, why don't we start with you? >> thanks. and i'll be brief because i'm confident that dan and crew invited me before they were able to line up these people who are the leaders in this debate. so i'll speak with some humility and hopefully set a little bit of an opening tone. it's rare for those of you who know me to speak with humility. in the think tank business it's -- no, don't laugh that much. when you're in the think tank business