ronald reagan meets walter mondale.everybody is calling it a major opportunity for mondale. >> he doesn't need just to win by a nose. he needs to win to stay with it by four or five lengths. he needs to do well because he starts from so far back. >> the question of ronald reagan's age had always been in the back of minds of a lot of people. he was by this time the oldest american president, and he was well into his 70s. >> i -- as i say, i feel that we have a problem here to resolve. >> reagan in the first debate against walter mondale looks confused. speaks too long. gets lost. it's not just that walter mondale won that debate. it's that people fear, is ronald reagan lost? and for the furst time they start talking about the age issue. >> it showed without cue cards and teleprompters the great communicator doesn't always communicate all that well. >> we had six dress rehearsals last time. plus loading him with computer statistics. the man was absolutely smothered by extraneous material. and this time we're going to let

ronald reagan meets walter mondale.erybody is calling it a major opportunity for mondale. >> he doesn't need just to win by a nose. he needs to win to stay with it by four or five lengths. he needs to do well because he starts from so far back. >> the question of ronald reagan's age had always been in the back of minds of a lot of people. he was by this time the oldest american president, and he was well into his 70s. >> i -- as i say, i feel that we have a problem here to resolve. >> reagan in the first debate against walter mondale looks confused. speaks too long. gets lost. it's not just that walter mondale won that debate. it's that people fear, is ronald reagan lost? and for the first time they start talking about the age issue. >> it showed without cue cards and teleprompters the great communicator doesn't always communicate all that well. >> we had six dress rehearsals last time. plus loading him with computer statistics. the man was absolutely smothered by extraneous material. and this time we're going to let ro

a close second to walter mondale for the race for the 1984 democratic nomination and was considered by many observers to be the front runner going into 1988. but within weeks of this announcement senator hart face allegations of a next her marital affair which led him to withdraw from the race. massachusetts governor michael dukakis won the nomination but lost decidedly to vice president george h.w. bush in a general election. ♪ senator hart: thank you very much. ♪ senator hart: thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. welcome the colorado. if you don't like the weather, it will change in a few minutes. [laughter] i want to say thanks to my good friends tim wirth and frederico pena and all the elected officials and leaders of our community and state on this platform. i want to take this opportunity to introduce the best daughter anyone ever had, andrea hart. [applause] i was tempted to introduce the next first lady of the united states, but i will simply say the wife -- best wife anyone ever had, leigh hart. i may or may not do that. [applause] -- thank eachink and every on

they won 44 states in the 1980 general election defeating jimmy carter and walter mondale. our coverage is courtesy of the league of women voters. >> good evening. i'm the national president of the league of women voters. ,elcome to the houston forum the third event in

bush ticket won 44 states in the 1980 general election, defeating incumbents jimmy carter and walter mondale. our coverage of this hour-long debate is courtesy of the league of women voters and the reagan presidential library and museum. >> good evening. i'm national president of the league of women voters. welcome to the houston forum, the third event in our 1980 presidential forum series. this series is part of a very important league tradition, providing the public with nonpartisan election information about issues and about candidates. tonight, i'm particularly pleased to be able to tell you that the league of women voters is going to continue on with that tradition. we announced today that we are going to sponsor the 1980 presidential debates, a series of four debates that will be held next september and october. the enthusiastic response of the public to the 1976 ford/carter presidential debates sponsored by the league and to our current forum series provides evidence of the fact that americans will expect the candidates to participate in face-to-face debates next fall. now, on with to

your book is the modern most important time for the vice presidency, beginning with walter mondale. can you give us just a quick overview of how the role of the vice presidency has changed within an administration? >> sure. painting with a real broad brush, for most of our history the vice presidency was really a legislative officer. and that was really true up through the vice presidency of alvin barkley by and large, president truman's vice president. beginning with the nixon vice presidency in 1953, the vice presidency really moved into the executive branch. the vice president spent more time in the executive branch doing political things for president than he did presiding over the senate. and i think that was really -- and the focus of the office really during that period was on presidential succession. it was having somebody who was plausibly prepared to be a presidential successor. and generally, vice presidents were doing things in the executive branch but they were pretty peripheral to the center of the executive branch. which really was the carter-mondale administration, t

had been a delegate to every national democratic convention since 1984 when walter mondale was nominated and the reason i say all this is i found given all that background and perspective i found these two books very very interesting and i learned a lot of additional things, some of it might be that i knew, but things that really stand out including by the way i had forgotten this entirely, supreme court justices were often directly involved in politics, running as candidates, now they do it from a different perspective but it is interesting to watch all that so i urge you to go ahead and take a chance. i will turn to questions at this time but i would also make an observation is people are getting ready to question, speak closely to the mic. think about this a little bit. it was alluded by both authors, you hear this all the time. is elections about covering personal life? so absolutely different, the bad language, bad politics and everything, or is it because we now live in the day of 24 hour news coverage, three major channels, i put news in quotes in a couple of those, and social med

at the republican candidate cannot carry utah, we are headed to a walter mondale-level bloodbath. contrast, head-to-had between me and hillary clinton, we are beating hillary clinton in key swing states. [applause] sen. cruz: in the state of ohio, donald loses to hillary clinton. we beat hillary clinton. in the state of iowa, donald loses to hillary clinton. we beat hillary clinton. in the state of wisconsin, which has not gone republican in a presidential race since 1984, donald loses to hillary clinton by 10 points. at 44-44.d i are tied in here in pennsylvania and other classic battlegrounds, donald loses to hillary clinton. hillary and i are tied in these date of pennsylvania. [applause] sen. cruz: and let me tell you right now, we are coming back here in october and november and if we stand together we are beating hillary clinton in pennsylvania. applause] now, it you may have heard a couple of days ago, the state of new york voted. and the media reported with breathless excitement that donald had won his home state. it was very exciting. the media and immediately said, new y

senator hart finished a close second to walter mondale for the 1984 nomination and was considered by many observers to be the front-runner going into 1988. but within weeks of this announcement, senator hart faced

. >> walter mondale hasn't secured the number of delegate, he was 50 delegates short, and went on to nomination in any case. >> stand by, guys, i want to go to john king at the magic wall. this is a contest between hillary clinton, and bernie sanders these are strictly pledge delegates. those numbers will change. they include the ones in erk nowe are able to assign so far. as we- assign the delegate, it means a big win for hillary clinton in new york. 42% for sanders. and the question is, where do we go next? we stay in this area. this is why they are confident. rhode island is an open primary. it is a relatively small baskets of delegates. the clint on campaign, if you think about that contest in 2008. come back to the democratic primary this is barack obama, winning the african american vote, and the darker blue is hillary clinton, bernie sanders tries to sell his message. this is the key test for senator sanders. if he loses with the blue collar message, if he can't win in pennsylvania, you expect hillary clinton, there we go, african american voters and latino voters, to do well

at the republican candidate cannot carry utah, we are headed to a walter mondale-level bloodbath. contrast, head-to-had between me and hillary clinton, we are beating hillary clinton in key swing states. [applause] sen. cruz: in the state of ohio, donald loses to hillary clinton. we beat hillary clinton. in the state of iowa, donald loses to hillary clinton. we beat hillary clinton. in the state of wisconsin, which has not gone republican in a presidential race since 1984, donald loses to hillary clinton by 10 points. at 44-44.d i are tied in here in pennsylvania and other classic battlegrounds, donald loses to hillary clinton. hillary and i are tied in these date of pennsylvania. [applause] sen. cruz: and let me tell you right now, we are coming back here in october and november and if we stand together we are beating hillary clinton in pennsylvania. applause] now, it you may have heard a couple of days ago, the state of new york voted. and the media reported with breathless excitement that donald had won his home state. it was very exciting. the media and immediately said, new y

you may be too young for this walter mondale lost 49 states to ronald reagan.t prediction yesterday. >> it is possible for republicans to throw the election away. >> poll after poll after poll says donald doesn't lose to hillary. he loses ter before i. >> john kasich on the bus rolling along trying to get to the convention. if it gets to the convention it can start to peel off delegates. even though donald trump and ted cruz are predicting the no chance, john kasich told me he thinks he will win the battle. listen. >> outline the scenario. >> you become the nominee. >> when you were delegates you let them know you are the one who consistently beats hillary clinton in the november election. you are the one with the experience and the record that fits the country. >> two words come to mind we talked about that scenario. possible and probable. is it possible for him to win? yes. is it probable? i think that is a more difficult hill to climb. >> anything is possible in this crazy life. john, thanks. meantime a big win for ted cruz and north dakota. we learned cruz

when ronald reagan debated walter mondale, rollins and beckel were the opposing campaign managers. >>would be? >> days. >> we had days negotiating. >> the color of the room. >> what difference would it make to the candidate what color the room was? >> because in certain conditions, certain colors work for certain candidates. >> because mondale was shorter than reagan -- >> we wanted more distance between the two podiums. we debated between 7 1/2 feet and 9 feet for a day and a half. >> the first debate came, and reagan struggled. >> 2/3 of the defense budget pays for pay and salary -- or pay and passengers. >> he looked tired and ragged. the general observation was they just spent too much time with a 70-year-old guy trying to beat every factoid into his brain. >> people said ronald reagan is too old for the office. >> you're already the oldest in history. >> in the next debate, reagan was ready for that. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> he delivers the line, and there's an impish

>> walter mondale was tied with ron reagan in 1984 and lost in a land slide. five days before the election rag skpan carter were tied. they had a debate and that changed everything. we have to see what happens in the conventions. and most importantly, the first presidential debate. mitt romney won that debate. if he had done the same way in the second and third debates he could have been elected president. the debates matter. >> we have less than half a minute. when you look at stories like this, it is a data analysis and you want to talk about unfavorables and so forth. do you think we are too much in the prediction business? >> they have every right to tell us how things would be if things don't change. but i want viewers to understand that things do change. this is the most fluid election ever and people are changing their minds all the time. >> that's why we have campaigns and if the polls were predictive job bush would be the republican nominee. he is out of the race. >>> still to come, susan sarandon in a celebrity spat for failing to condemn donald trum

the only slight parallel, 1984 gary hart got to the end be of the primaries against walter mondale. he said, welcome to overtime. he spent the summer trying to flip super delegates. he didn't get any. if gary hart didn't have any luck back then, i'm not sure bernie sanders will have any. >> steve kornacki, thanks. i want to give witness to this moment that steve led from chuck todd. chuck, what are we to make of this? >> well, to jeffrey with defense. i thought, look, let's give the sanders campaign some credit. they actually put their money where their mouth was. they said new york was must-win for them and they acted like it. they threw everything they could into new york to pull this off. so this was -- you know, i sort of take my hat off. some campaigns bloviate. they tried to win what was an uphill battle because they needed to change the dynamic. that didn't happen. when steve posed that terrific question, you don't have the pledge delegates, are you still going to do that, he said, yeah, that's our strategy, i think he said, at this time. that was the mini hedge to know that,

your book begins with walter mondale. can you give us a quick overview of how the role of the vice presidency has changed? a broadpainted with brush. for most of our history, the vice presidency was a legislative office. through was true president truman's vice president. beginning with the next and vice presidency in 1953, it didn't to the executive branch. the vice president spent more time in the executive branch during political things for the president then he did presiding over the senate. i think that was -- the focus of the office was on presidential succession. it was having somebody who was plausibly prepared to be a presidential success or and generally they were doing things for the executive branch but the vice president's work he peripheral to the executive branch. carter-mondale team, they moved in the white house physically and became the center of the presidency. years, six last 40 administrations, the vice president and each case has been a senior presidential advisor and troubleshooter who has taken on

>> in 1984 it was walter mondale and the fact is i said here on this show monday night, brilliantly,ey'd like to see done, some that hillary clinton can accept and some she can't accept, particularly trade deals. and so the question is, as you get out to the floor and be a fight, i think it does. it doesn't take that much with that many delegates to get you out to the floor and doesn't really matter. it does. because the republicans will take it and they will try to drive the democrats that much farther left. so there will be -- it will be significant. i wouldn't underestimate it at all. >> i've got to ask you, angela, how does he leverage these potential wins that bill's talking about. >> i think there's one thing. he's already shaped a lot of this agenda. vermont is now having automatic voter registration. the second thing is, he has former staff that has launched a pact called brand-new congress designed to go straight to the 2018 midterms and focus on reshaping the face of congress to ensure that there are policy makers that sound and act a lot more like bernie sanders. i think t

i think back 1984, walter mondale wanted to make a splash, went with geraldine ferraro.ere was issues with her family finances. there's a common thread there. how do you balance that as a candidate when you want to get some bang out of this pick, but at the same time, you got the risk that comes with it. >> well, as this report, that the bipartisan policy center did, both democrats and republicans point out, you have to start early and build that into the process from the beginning. so when you compile your large list, like the one for miss clinton, you would have some wild picks in there too, some ones that are out of the box. >> practically speaking, for hillary clinton right now, bernie sanders is saying, this thing isn't over. ip going to win next week, take it to california, i may even spend the summer trying to win this thing. if you're clinton, do you risk backlash if you begin the vetting process now? >> i think what the bipartisan policy report shows is that both hillary clinton and bernie sanders should be beginning their processes now, as should the three repu

if a republican can't carry utah, we are looking at a walter mondale level bloodbath nationwide. that means we lose the senate, we may lose the house. we lose the supreme court for a generation. hillary clinton is president. [booing] buries us in trillions of debt and keeps the same economic stagnation that the people of erie are sufficienting right now. [inaudible] it is interesting, hillary is looking to move into six teen hundred pennsylvania avenue -- 1600 pennsylvania avenue. i have different government housing in mind for her. [applause] deirdre: okay. so that is senator ted cruz speaking there in erie, pennsylvania, saying essentially that if donald trump is the nominee, that almost guaranties hillary clinton a victory. well he also commented on trump whining about colorado. donald trump as you know blaming the rnc after the colorado caucus full take went to senator cruz. >> the rnc, the republican national committee, they should be ashame of themselves for allowing this kind of crap to happen, i can tell you that. they should be ashamed of themselves. [cheering] because i

slight parallel i can think of in history, 1984, gary hart got to the end of the primaries against walter mondale, he had lost the popular vote and was behind in delegates and he said, welcome to overtime. he spent the summer trying to flip super delegates. he didn't get any. if gary hart didn't have any luck back then, i'm not sure bernie sanders will have any this time around. >> steve kornacki, thanks. i want to get reaction to the interview that steve led from chuck todd. chuck, what are we to make of this? >> well, to jeff weaver's defense -- and by the way, i thought, let's give the sanders campaign some credit. they put their money where their mouth was. they said new york was must win for them and i that acted like it. the campaign acted like it. they threw everything they could into new york to pull this off. so this was, i sort of take my hat off to campaigns, you know, sometimes bloviate about how much they're going to contest something. they made every effort. they tried to win a state they knew was an uphill battle, because they knew that was the only way to change the dynamic. now,

: you know, deirdre, the funny thing is i'm old enough to have covered in 1984 the event when walter mondale named a, the first woman vice-presidential nominee. that was geraldine ferraro. i don't know if this quite as historical impact of that, but may just have the impact of switching the narrative today on a day after donald trump had such a tremendous victory and made an important speech. now we're all talking about ted cruz again and that is what he needs. he has got to get people here in indiana to, you know, keep him or keep trump from having won this state, to keep his bid alive. i am at a trump rally though, the impact here is not that great. these guys are sticking with their guy. i would also point out this is an opportunity though to focus with a woman back on the front burner after yesterday's comment by trump that hillary clinton is playing the woman card. ted cruz played his woman card today. there is the famous statement trump made in "rolling stone" interview when carly fiorina was in the race. i think the quote was, be sure i got it right, look at that face. would anyone vo

walter mondale in 1984 went in 40 delegates short and he won on the first ballot and not like the things't happen. >> here's the difference in the race, though. you have people like john boehner, karl rove here, you have john kasich who's running on the premise that he might be able to get it at the convention. scott walker in a private meeting in new york i'm told talked about paul ryan and rnc state chairman and people stated that they're thinking to bring in a third person. if there is an attempt to jump, leapfrog over the two top vote getters, the two top state winners, two top delegate winners, don't you think that those people that caucused and voted for the two top guys they're going to walk away and never come back? >> well, look. i mean, clearly, there's a rule in place now that candidates need a majority of eight states, delegates. >> that's rule 40. >> a majority to be even nominated so, i mean, just -- i've said it before. not like i'm making news. i believe the candidate -- the nominee's going to be someone running. as far as paul ryan, again, number one, he's not running. n

for those unfamiliar with the history, walter mondale went up against reagan in 1984 and lost 49 states and is saying that's what will happen to the republican party should donald trump become the nominee. listen to what ted cruz tolding me begin kelly earlier today in a town hall broadcast tonight. >> last week, fox news' poll had donald losing to hillary clinton by double digits, had me beating hillary 47-44. and the most important thing about the poll, among young people, it had me beating hillary clinton by 14 points. >> just want to go with electability then john kashich should be the nominee. >> except someone is not electable if they can't get elected. >> but again, kashich maintaining that he will win the nomination at the convention. ted cruz, i talked to yesterday, in green bay, wisconsin, insisted he still has a route to get to the 1237 delegates necessary to clinch the nomination before the convention, but, shep to do that, he would have to win 82% of the remaining delegates. talk bat high bar for john kashich, that's a high bar for ted cruz. >> john roberts, thanks. donald

one race that was fought all the way up to the final day with the outcome, and gary hart and walter mondalen 1984. that was truly in doubt all the way to the end. but what we have seen in the last, what, eight years now between hillary clinton and barack obama in '80 and now the democratic and republican race this year, with more money, more media attention and more polarized parties, there are opportunities for candidates to extend these fights beyond the ending point that we had seen in previous races. i mean, it really would be extraordinary if we get to the final day on both sides and still have the nominations, at least technically or somewhat in doubt. it really i think is a change that we're witnessing and probably going to be with us for a while. >> it would certainly make those conventions obviously a lot more exciting. we've heard of pledge delegates, we have heard of super delegates. phil, there's also unbound delegates. explain. >> and to ron's point. why all of a sudden these matter. unbound delegates. cnn has found there are 183 unbound delegates coming from six states and thr

aesthetically, i'm glad i'm here and not -- >> guess what happened, new jersey's delegates went to walter mondalequick programming note, lester holt will be anchoring "nightly news" live from the middle east tomorrow and he'll have an exclusive interview with the secretary of defense ash carter. remember, there are serious issues that we are facing besides the way we argue about this election. >>> and when we come back in 45 seconds we'll have end game. and the debate over the so-called bathroom law in north carolina. >>> coming up, "meet the press" end game brought and with that it's a four-nothing score right here in the bottom of the fifth. and that's all she wrote for the young lefty... now it's in the hands of the bullpen. and out comes... papa john??? it looks like he's taking this official pizza thing pretty seriously. right now for just 6.99 each get two medium two-topping pizzas. that's two medium pizzas for just 6.99 each. papa john's - the official pizza of major league baseball. >>> "meet the press" end game is brought to you by boeing, building the future one century at a time. >>> e

people remember george mcgovern getting hammered, walter mondale getting hammered and they say sometimes you can't trust the electorate. >> donald trump is saying, i'm wondering if it's working. he is saying either i win or it's rigged or it's stacked against me. heads i win, tails i lose. is it sticking with the electorate? >> donald trump needs to get to 1,237. i think he needs to get there before he arrives in cleveland. if he doesn't, i don't think he comes home with the prize. what i really think is going on when he writes that op ed for "the wall street journal." >> criticizing the delegate selection process. he says what we are seeing now is not a proper use of the rules but a flagrant abuse of the rules. delegates are supposed to reflect the decisions of voters but the system is being rigged by party operatives with double agent delegates who reject the decision of voters. >> you'd expect the second or third place candidate would fire off that kind of a missile. no, he's the front-runner. what is he trying to do? he's trying to lock in his votes on a second, third, fourth, howeve

>> walter mondale was tied with ron reagan in 1984 and lost in a land slide. before the election rag skpan carter were tied. they had a debate and that changed everything. we have to see what happens in the conventions. and most importantly, the first presidential debate. mitt romney won that debate. if he had done the same way in the second and third debates he could have been elected president. the debates matter. >> we have less than half a minute. when you look at stories like this, it is a data analysis and you want to talk about unfavorables and so forth. do you think we are too much in the prediction business? >> they have every right to tell us how things would be if things don't change. but i want viewers to understand that things do change. this is the most fluid election ever and people are changing their minds all the time. >> that's why we have campaigns and if the polls were predictive job bush would be the republican nominee. he is out of the race. >>> still to come, susan sarandon in a celebrity spat for failing to condemn donald trump. and som

walter mondale in 1984 went in 40 delegates short and he won on the first ballot and not like the thingson't happen. >> here's the difference in the race, though. you have people like john boehner, karl rove here, you have john kasich who's running on the premise that he might be able to get it at the convention. scott walker in a private meeting in new york i'm told talked about paul ryan and rnc state chairman and people stated that they're thinking to bring in a third person. if there is an attempt to jump, leapfrog over the two top vote getters, the two top state winners, two top delegate winners, don't you think that those people that caucused and voted for the two top guys they're going to walk away and never come back? >> well, look. i mean, clearly, there's a rule in place now that candidates need a majority of eight states, delegates. >> that's rule 40. >> a majority to be even nominated so, i mean, just -- i've said it before. not like i'm making news. i believe the candidate -- the nominee's going to be someone running. as far as paul ryan, again, number one, he's not running.

aesthetically, i'm glad i'm here and not -- >> guess what happened, new jersey's delegates went to walter mondalemming note, lester holt will be anchoring "nightly news" live from the middle east tomorrow and he'll have an exclusive interview with the secretary of defense ash carter. remember, there are serious issues that we are facing besides the way we argue about this election. >>> and when we come back in 45 seconds we'll have end game. and the debate over the so-called bathroom law in north carolina. >>> coming up, "meet the press" end game brought make sure you're keeping up with your kids' online accounts and the social media they're using. talk with them about appropriate online behavior. is the best way to protect your kids from predators and bullies. the more you know. >>> "meet the press" end game is brought to you by boeing, building the future one century at a time. >>> end game time. panel is here. obviously i had governor mccrory on earlier. kathleen parker, you and he sparred via column. you had a column, hit him hard. he did a letter to the editor hitting back at your column. >>

. >> we're looking at a walter mondale-level bloodbath across the country. >> lyin' ted. >> donald trump on twitter bright and early this morning. >> make america great again. >> he says that lyin' ted cruz can't win. >> this has become one of the main talking points for donald trump. that the system is rigged. that it's unfair to an outsider. >> it's a rigged system. >> these are the rules, you know? it's just the way it works. >> donald trump has been supporting liberal democrats for 40 years. >> it is a drul a race to the bottom. the bottom of a bottomless pit. >> get 'em out. get 'em out. go home to mommy. bye. >> that's a good quote right there. >>> tomorrow, the new york primary. an epic battle in the primary state. can kasich and cruz stop trump from sweeping the state? and after sanders' seven straight wins, can he defeat clinton at home, brian williams, rachel maddow, chris matthews, and chuck todd have new york primary coverage, tomorrow beginning at 5:00 on msnbc. intt driver-assist systems. it recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. came

this is why he is less electable than walter mondale. this is his culture.ricans do not expect the president of the united states or white house suhould have a culture like this with the people he hired. >> let me back you up though, you say it is irrelevant but you wrote a piece calling donald trump an indecent candidate. no question this episode occurred as it is widely reported. it is not completely irrelevant if you are talking about it. >> i'm not saying that the incident itself is irrelevant. i think it is relevant as to why donald trump is under water with women in the can untry. i think whether or not the prosecution goes forward is irrelevant. anyone with one eye functioning can look at this tape and see exactly what is happening. and that is not how you treat the press. that is not how you treat another human being. there is is a fabric of indecency that perm nates throughout the donald trump campaign and it starts at the top with the candidate himself and that is not what people want representing the united states of america yet alone our party an

reagan-bush ticket 144 states in the 1980 general election, defeating incumbent jimmy carter and walter mondaler coverage of the hour-long debate is courtesy of the league of women voters, at the reagan presidential library and museum. howard: good evening. i'm the national president of the league of women voters. welcome to the houston forum, the third event in our 1980 presidential forum series. this series is part of a very important league tradition providing the public with nonpartisan election information about issues and candidates. tonight i am particularly pleased to be evil to tell you the league of women voters is going to continue on with that tradition. we announced we are going to sponsor the 1980 presidential debate. a series of debates that will be held next september and october. the enthusiastic response of the public to the 1976 debate and to our current series provides evidence of the fact that americans will expect candidates to participate in face-to-face debates next fall. now, on with tonight's event and our moderator, the distinguished howard k smith. >> thank you. good

we are looking at a bloodbath of walter mondale proportions. >> republican front-runner absent from sunday talk shows yesterday for the first time in four months. now, i spoke with a senior trump campaign official that said they were woe. ly undermanned in colorado. still, their top line point remains the same. their goal, get to the 1,237, the magic delegate number before the convention. then they don't have the to worry about any of this. michaela >> bernie sanders is no longer questioning whether hillary clinton has the ability to be judgment. now he is questioning her judgment. joe johns is live in washington with more on that for us. good morning. >>> good morning, michaela. the two democrats fanning the flames of issues from last week. sanders opened up a new line of attacking suggesting she may not be qualified. sanders was using different words. hillary clinton for her part appearing to try to continue to take the high road on the issue. listen. >> she may have the experience to be president of the united states. no one can argue that. but in terms of a judgment, something is clear

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