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one more point, michael dukakis adds that george hw bush ran with willie horton, that was a republicanal gore in the primary so these primaries can hurt you in the general and i think bernie sanders didn't want to be part of that. heather: you think bernie sanders entire goal was to try to push democrats more to the left? he was never really in it to win it? >> i'll agree with hogan to an extent in that bernie sanders was surprised about the degree of support he was able to realize from the democratic voters and this really comes down to one thing. i think calculus was there are enough democratic socialists to support bernie sanders and getting over the top and he was going to change the agenda and trajectory of the democratic party as a message candidate. what we've actually seen is that centers base of support our young voters. they're not really socialists, their people that don't have jobs, they don't have opportunity so they're gravitating to the candidate like sanders that has hope . and so it's, the problem i see for democrats is that hillary clinton can't really capitalize on t

but occasionally, you know, a la willie horton, they feel that a vote that can be perceived as lenientight come back to bite them. the good news is, so far at least, people have stuck with it. and i'm modestly optimistic that we can get something done this year. it breaks the psychology that we just have to lock people up in order to keep ourselves safe. one last element to this that has been interesting, is the opioids crisis that some of you may have read about. right now, painkillers, overdoses of people taking painkillers, kills more people than traffic accidents. it's a remarkable statistic. there's been this huge spike in painkiller addiction, which is then leading to heroin addiction, because oftentimes heroin is cheaper than painkillers. and four out of five people who get addicted to heroin start their addiction with oxycontin or some other painkiller addiction. it's seeping into rural areas. and it's a tragic issue that we are really spending a lot of time focused on. but what's interesting is that the politics of this changes a little bit where, when elected officials see ki

but occasionally, you know, a la willie horton, they feel that a vote that can be perceived as lenient might come back to bite them. the good news is, so far at least, people have stuck with it. and i'm modestly optimistic that we can get something done this year. it won't solve the problem of mass incarceration, because that was a process that took 20, 30 years to get to where we are now. where we account for 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners. so, it's going to take some time to reverse. but the legislation that's pending right now provides meaningful reductions in the standards for sentencing around nonviolent drug crimes. it does some very important work in terms of re-entry, diversion programs. it breaks the psychology that we just have to lock people up in order to keep ourselves safe. one last element to this that has been interesting, is the opioids crisis that some of you may have read about. right now, painkillers, overdoses of people taking painkillers, kills more people than traffic accidents. it's a remarkable statistic. there's been this huge sp

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as the hearings were about to begin, the same conservative groups produce the willie horton ads, ran commercials, attacked members of the judiciary committee including myself. with the intent to intimidate as they so stated, intimidate review of the nomination. i find ironic, mr. president, that we can recognize the cause if not find the answers for this nastiness in the context of presidential elections, but lack the same insight to respect the confirmation process. many the same voices have criticized the committee for not going hard enough every allegations that judge thomas had improper travel expenses spitefully transferred a whistleblower at eeoc, or was friends with a fellow part lobbyist. many critics of a committee are among the first to say that presidential campaigns in 1992 been dominated by questions of personal wrongdoing instead of quote, the real issues. i too believe the nation would be better off if the current campaign was centered on disputes over public policy rather than gossip about marital fidelity or marijuana use. but i must say that the same is true about t

and then as the hearings were , about to begin, the same conservative groups produce the willie horton ads, ran commercials, attacked members of the judiciary committee including myself. with the intent to intimidate as they so stated, intimidate review of the nomination. i find ironic, mr. president, that we can recognize the cause if not find the answers for this nastiness in the context of presidential elections, but lack the same insight to respect the confirmation process. many the same voices have criticized the committee for not going hard enough every allegations that judge thomas had improper travel expenses , spitefully transferred a whistleblower at eeoc, or was friends with a fellow part -- a pro-apartheid lobbyist, many critics of a committee are among the first to say that presidential campaigns in 1992 been dominated by questions of personal wrongdoing instead of quote, the real issues. we can't have it both ways, mr. president. i too believe the nation would be better off if the current campaign was centered on disputes over public policy rather than gossip about marita