emily: your cofounder arash -- i read that it was like married at first sight at the beginning.hter] drew: something like that. emily: you got along famously. how has your relationship changed over the years? drew: i think it has been pretty steady. i think we -- we have kind of grown up together doing this. so our values have really shaped by going through this experience together. emily: you went through the y combinator program. i know you pitched paul graham in the early days. one thing that he told us on your first application is you would sell dropbox for $1 million. [laughter] drew: that is right. emily: obviously, that has changed. drew: i am glad no one was willing to offer us $1 million. there wasn't really an opportunity. emily: it was good you did not get that offer, right? [laughter] drew: then and today what motivates us is building something people love. emily: meeting steve jobs. how did that happen? what was that like? drew: it was interesting. so apple became aware of dropbox early on. and they were curious -- it started out well below -- it wasn't steve who fi