let's move along to my -- >> this is vince cantu. tell us your story. >> well, joe and i shouldn't have been there in the first place. >> me, too. >> no, president kennedy had passed a proclamation, no married men. and at the time i was married and had a little girl, mary lou. and then uncle sam came knocking and he said, hey, army needs you. so i gathered all of my papers and took them to victoria, because that is where the recruiting station was, and i said, hey, you can't take me in, put all of the information in front of him and i said, i'm sorry, but need -- well you're it. and i said, okay. so i was sure i wasn't going to pass. but three guys went. one didn't make it because -- because of intelligence. the other one, he was too fat. and so -- and so i lucked out. >> who was -- [ laughter ] >> who was the one that had no intelligence? [ laughter ] >> i should have made like i had no intelligence. i should have done that. but any way, they took me in. now the way i met joe, sergeant montgomery was my platoon sergeant and sergeant