jonah goldberg begs to differ with the donald on his electoral prowess.s the editor of the national review. jonah, let me get your take. you say there is no way donald trump can win a general elect. why? >> i don't there is no way he can win. it's been an unpredictable year. a lot of people including me have been wrong. hillary clinton could lose the f.b.i. primary. but a reasonable person look at data and polling would conclude, i think that donald trump had no chance to win in a general election, or very little chance. eric trump, donald trump's kid was on air saying how, well, trump's victory in new york shows he can win new york in a general elect. some republican always wins new york in the new york primary. that happens he time. george w. bush got more votes in 2000 than donald trump did in 2016 and he still lost new york state by something hike 15 point to al gore. so the national electorate is very different than the republican electorate. donald trump's polling among hispanic is -- he polls -- kennedy: i think you said, your word were among hispa

show host meghan mccain, and we welcome back to the couch senior editor for the national review, jonah goldberg is here and, sir, you are outnumbered. welcome back. >> it's great to be here. sandra: i noticed your twitter profile, your picture, is a dog. >> yes. [laughter] sandra: is that your dog? >> that is my departed, dead dog. >> oh! >> thank you. he was cosmo, the wonder dog, the it dog of the american right long before jasper -- sandra: i was just going to say! [laughter] >> these hungarians, they take jobs our dogs won't do, apparently. >> hear that? [laughter] sandra: all right. we've got a lot to get to. thanks for being here. is associated press -- the associated press is now reporting donald trump has the number of delegates needed to be the republican nominee. it takes 1237 delegates, that number we've all been watching, to win the gop nomination. and according to the ap the billionaire businessman now has 1238 delegates. he was put over the top by a small number of the party's unbound delegates who told the news agency they support him at the convention. when this contest began, 1

stuart: jonah goldberg was on the show earlier.he could never vote for donald trump. >> so are steve hayes and some other prominent conservatives. they are in a real box. they do not want to help elect hillary clinton. some of them have gone so far against donald trump that they are really in an uncomfortable situation. >> let me back up a little bit here. would you say that the mainstream media, if you could lump them all together -- you are smiling. i think that you can, they are adamant to a trump presidency now, and in the future and the election. >> they are in the tank for trial. of course it has been good for ratings. at the same time, much of the coverage of trump is gone. was negative. was dismissing him for months and months and months. not a serious person. i do not do that there's that much sympathy. trump loves to attack the mainstream media. we just say good. it is good for ratings. bring it on. stuart: we put him on this program because he makes news. he is news. >> he interviews in a way that had crews and marco rub

our panel, jonah goldberg, amy walter, editor for the cook political report and lisa booth columnist the washington examiner. thanks for being here. amy start with you. >> does this dot unity trick for the party? >> with the judges. i think your poll is showing this. winning has helped to bring the party together almost more than anything else. i think the best thing that donald trump has done in the last day and a half is that he's actually stayed on message. he's doing the sorts of things that -- >> and off tv. >> he's doing the thing that discipline -- there's a very good point jonah exactly. which is he's doing that's what a disciplined candidate does. i have a message. i have a if he cuss for today, it's going to be all about judges. he's letting the story be about judges and conservatives accepting them and lauding him for this. a poll coming out this is a very good day. can he keep this discipline and keep his campaign focused on these sorts of things day in and day out for the next six months? that's the bigger question mark. >> it's a solid list. a good list. he actually i d

show host meghan mccain, and we welcome back to the couch senior editor for the national review, jonah goldbergmbered. welcome back. >> it's great to be here. sandra: i noticed your twitter profile, your picture, is a dog. >> yes. [laughter] sandra: is that your dog? >> that is my departed, dead dog. >> oh!

thank you jonah goldberg, thank you so much for joining us once again. john? one let's check in on what's happening now with the cruz campaign. he is in evansville indiana flight his running mate carly fiorina. let's listen in for a moment. wolf barbecue incorporated. >> you want to understand donald trump, look no further than the interview he did a few months ago. when he was asked a very simple question. when the last time you ask god for forgiveness? and donald trump said he has never asked god for forgiveness for anything. i want you to think about that. what does that say about a person? i asked god to forgive me three times today. think about your children. do you want your children coming home and same mommy, i don't ask god for forgiveness for anything. why? because donald trumpdoesn't and if he doesn't and everyone likes him, the media praises him, i don't need to either. i love this nation .i love his people. this is not who we are. these are not our boundaries. if anyone has seen the movie back to the future to, the screenwriter says that he based

jonah goldberg with us this morning. welcome to the program. always good to see you. i know you don't have much time for donald trump. i got that but this situation, with egyptair, i think it could be a political plus for donald trump. what say you? >> no, i think you're probably right. his original in the primaries, first time he sort of broke through a ceiling after the paris attacks. and there is sort of a mood and hunger out there for a tough talk on terrorism and hillary clinton is essentially incapable of doing that plausibly. in fact, hillary clinton is in capable of talking convincingly about almost anything plausibly. no one believes anything she says anymore. i think, it feels pretty ghoulish to immediately go to the political scale on this, you're right. i think it does help trump. stuart: in the absence much president obama talking about islamic terror and what we're going to do about it, in the absence of hillary and bernie saying it is islamic terror, let's doing something about this, trump looks good almost by default. i want to move on to the election.