. >> while some inmates sneak away for quick sex, others like kathy phillips and devon gann seek long-term relationships. >> we have a good relationship. we've been together about two years. and for a relationship in here, it's good. >> when we met them, kathy was 42 years old and serving 14 to 17 years as a habitual felon with multiple counts of forgery, larceny and resisting officers. devon was 25 years old and serving 9 to 12 years for second degree murder. >> it was a man i lived with. he was a drug dealer. it was a robbery gone bad. and he got kill. and i left the crime scene with the guy who killed him because i was -- it was a bad situation. >> but in prison the two women seem to have discovered a comfort zone. >> you get in here and you don't have anybody. you don't have anything. so you just sort of cling to somebody. >> and women are more affectionate or whatever, anyway. >> yeah. >> so it looks like normal couples on the streets, but it's all women. >> but any relationship in prison involves toeing the line. >> a new couple is like the staff sort of zone in on them, give them a

. >> kathy phillips is doing 14 to 17 years for forgery and writing bad checks. been locked up for second-degree murder. within the prison walls, they are considered loan sharks. >> that's the best hustle. that's where you're going to make the most money. i started out with $10. put the $10 out, pulled in 20 the next week. put the 20 out and pulled in 40 the next week, and i kept doubling until i got on my feet and got stable. it's a good hustle. if somebody doesn't pay me, i just don't deal with them no more. i tell my friends that are loan sharks, don't deal with them. you got some people in here that will bust them in the head with a lock or something. i ain't down with that. you'll go to single cell. i'm not feeling that. i mean, i'll just chalk it up as a loss and go on about my business. >> devin and kathy are not only business partners, they're also lovers. >> i'm the wife. whatever she's involved in, i'm involved in. before her, i had my own hustle that was pretty much staff-related. >> in the past, devin says she baited staff into relationships to frame