mr. barone in about 25 years. he's a great man, your father. did you say frank barone? yeah.sed to work after school at the same company as your father. he was a real mentor to me. mentor? you sure you don't mean tormentor? damn it, marie. the elastic is completely shot on these pants. mr. barone? who are you? sam gilula!

mr. barone: well, you laugh. there is some people on both the democratic and republican parties that are crying about this. but trump, who spent much of the month of april complaining about rigging the rules, and so forth, has been a huge beneficiary of the rules of the republican party, which are designed for a party that has a solid core of supporters thought would usually find plurality winners of early primaries to be acceptable. that has not been a description of the republican party this year, but it enabled donald trump to amass a big delegate lead without winning the majority of voters in any contest between february 1 and april 19. he got 35% in new hampshire, a big win. 33% in the maine caucus next door was a loss. 32% of the vote in south carolina. that would have been a loser next door in north carolina or virginia. he got 36%, a win in michigan. next door in ohio, 36% was a loss for donald trump. so, when he gets combined opposition, he has on occasion failed to win the votes, as he did in ohio again

mr. barone: your point of view is pretty clear. they shouldn't coalesce around donald trump. you could certainly make that argument. i think he will get less coalescing than other republican candidates have gotten, but i think he will get more than the tenor of your question suggests. we have people like bill kristol, the editor of the "weekly standard," talking about a third party as a kind of basis for republicans to vote for and to come out and vote for so they will come out and vote for republican candidates for the senate and the house and so forth. i think that -- i suspect not a whole lot is going to come out of that, and so forth. you know, it is obviously a different situation from which we faced where both parties have nominated candidates in recent cycles who have been widely acceptable to the party's constituency, and the question is how much of the party's constituency considers trump not acceptable, and does trump add some people in the contest to compensate for that? and my view is he is probably unacceptable to fewer than the tenor of your question suggests, a

mr. barone: we have been through a period of very high persistent partisanship roughly equal size , blocks on both sides and very persistent voting patterns. we had in 2012 only 26 congressional districts out of 435 devoted to split tickets, that is vote majority president in one one party, elected congressman of the other parties. it is the lowest number since 1920. i do think, americans, however, are capable of splitting tickets. it's not that hard. if you want to do it. they just haven't been in the habit of doing lately because george w. bush for ameg defid e party,ned the republican and barack obama defined the democratic party, and people voted accordingly. does that all child defined the republican national does donald trump defined the republican trump-- does donald defined in the republican party? many people do not want to be identified with their party leader. when richard nixon was reelected in 1972, he carried, i think, 389 congressional districts against george mcgovern. half of them voted for democratic congressman. so, the americans are capable of splitting tickets if they

mr. barone: your point of view is clear -- clear from the question. they shouldn't coalesce around trump. i think he will get less coalescing than other republican candidates have gotten, but i think he will get more than the tenor of your question suggests. we have people like bill kristol, the editor of the "weekly standard," talking about a third party as a kind of bases for republicans to vote for and to come out and vote for so they will come out and vote for republican candidates, in the senate and the house, and so forth. i think that -- i suspect not a whole lot is going to come out of that, and so forth. it is obviously a different situation from which we face where both parties have nominated candidates in recent cycles who have been widely acceptable to the party's constituency, and the question is how much of the party's constituency considers trump not acceptable, and does trump add some people in the contest to compensate for that? my view is he is probably unacceptable to fewer than the tenor of your question suggests, and the number of

served as an incredible mentor to so many young lawyers the entire office of her broken in will mr. baron the senses the police department as of friday evening have identified the suspect in this case. >>marty gonzales: they were pull test and support of hunger strike to protest as a member of the group known as the fiscal five hospitalized just after 16 days of fasting this comes in the wake of recent police shooting san francisco plan never showed up and is off of this it by phone with protesters as and merely said he stands by the chief and the recipe is working long some changes but they say that is rotted off. >>marty gonzales: at one point there about 200 protesters outside of city hall there nine closures in both direction from now until 10:00 this morning the link soldiers go back to affect tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. until 10:00 a.m.. >>marty gonzales: ahead of the fair plan on taking bart this weekend fremont line between the san leandro and a frustration to shut down for the weekend that section of track has already been closed three times for repair and three more closures are plan

perhaps his idea of good people are mr. baron and miller, meaning there is nobody -- listen to this -- there is nobody i can surround myself with because i'm the man, i'm not yielding to anybody's judgment, i'm going to rely on baron and miller. >> if that was the case, that would be a problem in that flexibility of thought, inability to take in new data and have flexible movement about your thought, is important to great leadership. it really is, so that would be concerning. i will tell you this. the american people right now, i think, are very conflicted about whether they want a leader who is really a good guy, who always tells the truth, who wears the white hat, if they're going to send them out to deal with the putins and the people that we think maybe aren't so on the up and up, do break the rules, aren't so moral. i think people are really conflicted about whether they want a good leader. >> maybe they say putin is a mischievous guy. we need a little of that in our arsenal. final question. what does it say about his core c

that was a minor scandal when it was john baron, mr. trump in 1990. he killed john baron and came back as john miller the following year. as john miller, it was really strange. even in celebrity tabloid skull tour, to pretend to be somebody you're not in order to talk to gossip reporters to tell them about your love life. and how much women want you. that was even seen as bizarre at the time by the tabloids. it earned him a slew of head lines about how strange this behavior was. and not incidentally he admitted it. he apologized for it. and he played it off as a joke. now "the washington post" obtained the tape of that conversation that he had with "people" magazine reporter, 1991. they posted it on their front page today. and now, today, now that he's running for president and that tape is circulating, now mr. trump has a very different explanation for this and a different reaction to what he used to admit to. >> it doesn't sound like my voice at all. i have many, many people that are trying to imitate my voice. and you can imagine that. and this sou

byrne of alabama -- the clerk: amendment offered by mr. baron of alabama. allocating funds made available by this act for projects of the army corps of engineer the chief of engineers shall gai priority o the dog river, fowl river, projects.labatrie mr. simpson: i reserve a point of order on the gentleman's amendment. the chair: the gentleman from alabama is recognized for five minutes. mr. byrne: my amendment would allow for a number of projects in my home district of coastal alabama to must've forward. are ny areas the waterways the lifeblood of the in addition's economy. i appreciate the work the army corps of engineers does to keep our waterways maintained. i know it works hard to prioritize projects to keep our waterways and ports open for commerce. unfortunately, at times it seems like smaller projects get ignored or foggeten altogether. these projects are vital to many of our local communities and have a significant economic impact from commercial and recreational fishing as well as tourism in general. my amendment seeks to prioritize some projects in

now, trump also reportedly had a publicist named john baron who bore a similar un kan canny resemblance to mrtrump. baron, of course, the name of his son. >> john miller, and john baron. >> i have to imagine the campaign is scrambling. how are they explaining all this? >> reporter: trump is sticking by that denial but in another strange twist "the washington post" was interviewing trump on the phone and when they asked if he ever employed a john miller, the line suddenly went dead. >> all right, mary. as you said, stranger than fiction. >> yeah, all right, mary, thank you. >> thank you. >>> let's bring in political commentator lz granderson to weigh in on this. lz, good morning, sir. so let me just ask you straight up, do you buy trump's denials here? >> of course not. i don't think anyone who's paid attention to his cadence over the past six to eight months can read a transcript and not think it's donald trump but him denying this is kind of par for the course. >> yeah, it sounds just like him but, of course, he has denied it so how does he walk this back if at all? >> well, he doesn't need

trump frequently acted as his own public relations flak, jon miller or john baron in the 1980s something he admitted in 1990. >> mrthe real life inspiration for ironman. who am i? i'm his publicist, joey pepperoni. trump's alter ego is already a latd night punchline. his pr impersonation was one of trump's tough business tactics. a documentary says trump acting as john baron threat and in lawyer representing undocumented polar workers who sued him for back wages >> i think one thing for sure, donald trump has rewritten the traditional playbook in politic thousands. >> by traditional, he means standard of conduct and transparency. another example, trump's refusal to release his tax returns. i wouldn't be surprised if people don't care. >> the "the new york times" published his front page story sunday with interviews from women who worked with or around trump, who said he could be crude, suggestive, and demeaning. supporters said the allegations will phase and trump will repair historically high unfavorables among women. >> he is going to go out and make his case. if there are anier use with women. i'm sure he will

and if there were a john baron, he would be sitting here by mr. miller.them both on my program tomorrow morning but i want to see them at the same time. >> have you listened to the voice? >> oh come on. from the get-go. >> this is not don, this is don barron -- >> i used to call the drugstore and ask if they had prince albert in the can. but i was 12 and 13 at the time. that's the thing. not just the inflexion of the voice. it is the word choice. he uses as you just proved with the tape that you -- he uses the same words today. >> so the thing is that is this the thing that doesn't damage, because i don't think there is anything that can do damage. >> not with his core. here is what i was thinking. it is not just this. also tax returns. also the butler, right? if i'm paul ryan and i just had this big reproachment this week and i'm finally coming to terms with getting on board with the donald, what am i thinking now? like what the hell am i getting into with this guy making phony phone calls, not releasing tax returns and hiring a crack pot as domestic sta

you're saying there was a john baron and john miller, both of whom are public relation specialists who worked for mr. trump? >> i don't know who worked for mr. trump, wolf. what i'm saying if mr. trump was asked was this you on the phone and he said no. that should be the end of it. it's not a big deal and that's the problem i'm having with this discussion right now. there are so many things we should be talking about. like moving forward in the republican party and like hillary clinton and talking about the policies and not "people" magazine. >> let's take a quick break. katrina, stay with us. there are other issues i want to get to as well. we'll be right back. (vo) they say big can never be good. purina believes it can. inspecting every ingredient for quality? that's big. being confident that your pet's food is 100% safe? that's big, too. spending more healthy years with your best friend? that's amazing. big is exciting... daring... for everyone. pets don't just make life better - they make it bigger. purina. live big. ♪music continues [daughter] papa! [father] i missed you! [daughter]did you bri

mr. trump posing as a fake pr guy in the early '90s. you can't make this stuff up. >> donny, john baronyou. >> johnny, boy. i haven't heard from you in a while. what have you got for me? >> donny giving us honest. >> lindsey graham, he and trump talked, extended talk about foreign policy. i thought in a week where trump didn't get enough credit for a lot of finesse moves. >> i think it's incredible considering how much they have gone through and how much donald trump has dragged lindsey graham through the mud or tried to, gave his cell phone out. lindsey graham has taken every pot shot. the two of them have a phone call and graham admitting he asked some pretty decent foreign questions. unsurprising he's still not going to be voting for trump. >> i'm going to rule out that lindsey graham will say trump is the best choice. >> coming in and covering this one, i'm amazed at how much the republican party can trash donald trump, call him dangerous, say he's untrustworthy and shouldn't have the nuclear codes and an idiot which is what they have been calling him and saying we're going to suppo

or john baron, in the something he admit to in court documents in 1990. >> mr. trump is the real-life inspiration for ironman. who am i? i'm his publicist joy pepperoni. >> reporter: trump's alter ego is already a late-night punch line. his p.r. impersonation was also one of trump's tough business tactics. a recently released documentary says trump, acting as john baron, threatened a lawyer representing undocumented polish workers wages. >> i think for sure donald trump has rewritten the traditional playbook in politics. >> reporter: by traditional, rnc chair reince priebus means standards of conduct and transparency. another example, trump's refusal to release his tax returns. >> i wouldn't be surprised if people don't care. >> reporter: "the new york times" also published this front-page story sunday with interviews from women who worked with or around trump who said he could be crude, suggestive, and demeaning. supporters said the allegations will fade and trump will repair historically high, unfavorables among women. >> he's going to go out and make his case

mr. trump. >> donald trump says that's not him. i believe it's not him. >> in 1990 under oath, he testified that he used the name john baron and he told the "people" magazine that he used the name john miller. >> i just know that he said it's not him. >> reporter: the story is providing even more fodder for "saturday night live" skits like this one. >> mr. trump is the real inspiration for ironman. who am i? this is what classy people sound like, okay? >> reporter: gop leaders, including mitt romney and weekly standard editor bill crystal are still trying to recruit a third-party candidate to take on trump, an effort denounced as a suicide mission. >> they can try to hijack another party and get on the ballot but it's a suicide mission for our country because what it means is that you're throwing down not just eight years of the white house you about potentially 100 years on the supreme court and wrecking this country for many generations. >> now, one of the things we're getting a better sense of is how donald trump is going to respond to the deep dives into his past and he's getting more scrutiny as a republican nominee and it's clea