i'll like to ask engineer pat buchanan. pat: john, it's doable but it's not cost-effective to build it especially when you've dot the -- got the panama canal now taking very large container ships and it's a very efficient canal. and this is an incredible project. t would take digging through nicaragua a longer length, even reflate nicaragua and through panama. it would be redundant. i think the chinese talked through their hat a lot and i don't think they're going to go build in that canal, but they're welcome to try. maybe the nick juans will make ome money -- nicaraguans will make some money. clarence: they have found nothing and you can look throughout the continent of africa, the chinese have made all kinds of promises and supposed commitments to build these enormous projects and they haven't delivered on virtually nything. the economy is slowing. but when they go into these areas, they generally bring their own workers. they really don't do much to benefit the local area and people are beginning to understand that the c

joining me now is pat buchanan.e social disaster that you see right now for white middle america? >> partly what you described there. i read that "new york times" story and was astonished by it that this is the only group of middle class white folks and i gather working class white as well for whom the mortality rate is rising in middle age. in my view there's a number of reasons for it. one is the economy. you've seen the real wages have been flat, of course, and tremendous numbers of people even though unemployment is low have dropped out of the labor force. i think cultural they're under assault. the phrase "angry white male" is one of the few slurs that can be used today. let me use something that merle haggard died recently have had a line from okie from ma skoegy, said are the good times really over for good? and i think for the white american middle class they feel the good times are over for good and they look to donald trump the way that african-americans looked to barack obama, with hope. >> when you say t

buchanan? pat: not likely, john. let me say, though, this week's going down in the mediterranean just off alexandria, egypt, is going to make this problem of security at andorts even more difficult harder to enforce but as for the idea of shifting to private concerns, you know, first the insurance and the liability of did thatte firm that would be extraordinary, the bece would have to dramatically increased for what they're doing, i think. i'm not sure folks would take it not sure most americans would even want that kind of risk so i don't think get change and if you're going to get any kind of change you're going to get is probably you might get more folks working for t.s.a. eleanor: you've got -- air considerably. lots of people are flying. vacation season is here. resourcesuld get the to be able to handle this. congress doesn't want to fund anything and that's a problem. complain.like to and to think that a private monopoly could take over and somehow magically make all of this better is really a fool's errand. gi

pat buchanan, this is a mess. what do you make of it? >> i think the department of justice, i hope the obama administration gets stuffed on this one. the idea that grown men have a right to use girl's locker rooms and girl's bathrooms and all the rest of it, it seems to me is ridiculous. there is no need, no great crisis here in america. and to compare this with a civil rights act of 1964, i go back to those days and the voting rights act and selma in '65, it is ridiculous. there is going -- something is going to happen out of this. some character is going to go into some girl's room or lady's room and some terrible incident is going to occur and there is go to be a terrible backlash. this country existed for, what, 200 some odd years and we haven't had any problem with this. why can't the minority that is griping about it deal with it. >> you know he what was interesting to liken this and the jim crow laws and what have you, i mean, to put that community in with those who -- >> it is an outrage. >> i guess the bigger point here is could

the norm of the typical republican platform, that you have not seen in recent years, not since pat buchanan ran, such an anti-trade fervor from a republican presidential nominee or candidate. that is really unusual. and his position on trade i think is wrong. i think it is not based on real data. and i do not think he has really delved into it. i think there is some problems there, giving a segment of the republican party some anxiety. and in other segments of the republican party are liking that. this is really unusual in creating this limbo that i spoke of, that there is a tension there that we have not been able to resolve that. that is what speaker ryan is most engaged in, how do we resolve this? >> if you would to sit face-to-face with donald trump, would you tell him? mr. ribble: i would tell him to grow up. the schoolyard bully approach -- think about this. i don't know if you have children. but i do. i taught my children and the youngest of ages that you do not call people names. line ted, little marco, cricket hillary, this behavior is unbecoming of a president of the united states

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when pat buchanan won the new hampshire primary. there was a lot of nervousness that. i think that what paul ryan is trying to preserve some leverage over donald trump and to protect hisg caucus. there are a lot of people going to beare not comfortable supporting trump and who are going to have to so they'restance and all saying we'll support the nominee of the party. they won't mention his name. democrats are going to keep reminding every republican that if you are on the ticket trump, that you support all of the odious things that you can't just skitter away so yes, i think the republican party is imploding on issues because trump does represent a set of issues that's the more in alignment with country in a number of these areas. be a new republican party coming out of this and it won't take a victory by donald that about.ng tom: i couldn't disagree more strongly with pat. think if the party -- it's not about the party. it's not about an individual, an ideology and belief of what conservatism for.s trump has won the nomination but require the other members of the par

they are basically as pat buchanan would have his campaign agenda is really pat buchanan without thesocial policy. you know, america first, united states is not the world's policeman. it's -- it's diminishing returns as far as what we get in return. trade deals are disastrous for us. we been be intellectualized and what amazes me is -- the industrialized. some of the republicans who are abandoning ship such as william kristol or basically really never was much of a republican, other than the pro israel interventionist foreign policy middle east. because now donald trump is rejecting this aggressive interventionism, bill kristol once every third party candidate. it's horrendous. >> host: we showed a column by bill kristol earlier. here it is again for our viewers but frank gaffney, give you a chance to respond. >> guest: i think there's something to what the caller has just said. there is a similarity betweenisa some elements of the trump platform as it has developed so far, and those of pat buchanan. that began as an old friend of mine. we disagreed mightily on some pieces of this, p

last year, pat buchanan said putin is headed straight for the nobel peace prize. he said this.now it sounds crazy, but to be fair, they give those to just about anybody these days. ted cruz said that denying the existence of climate change made him like galileo. that's not really an apt comparison. galileo believed the earth revolves around the sun. ted cruz believes the earth revolves around ted cruz. and just as an aside. i want to point out, when a guy has his face on a hope poster calls you self-centered, you know you have problem. >> scottie and robert are still with us. best year from your perspective. >> this is what the democratic party is missing this election cycle. those lines are funny, they're humor ru humor ous. i sit there and scream at but yesterday when sproem jupreside did mike drop, those will be the epic lines. this is why the democrats right now, nobody, whether it's hillary clinton or bernie sanders, could deliver lines like that, depending on -- >> scottie, don't be discouraged, because -- >> i don't have to worry about it. >> the republicans are giving u

. >> pat buchanan -- >> he was so tough on buchanan. appropriately. >> he has done a complete 180. back then the buchanan piece is he was an anti-nafta, pro-lifer and anti-war. who is donald trump today, exactly that. >> maybe the greatest spin i've ever seen on anything is it's almost coming out that bush is war hero and kerry's not. that could be the greatest spin i've seen. >> because? >> it happened to be brilliant. they have taken all of that war hero thing away from kerry and almost given it to bush. bush was not serving. >> there he is giving credit to the sleaziest campaign ever. john kerry's opposition of the vietnam war and turned it into an attack on the war itself and saying good politics. >> he knew he had to be on offense. kerry didn't respond. trump responds to everything and responds quickly. >> in 1999 trump talked to me about his plans for the economy which included taxing people on their net worth. it's not an income tax. this is a wealth tax. let's watch. >> i would tax people of wealth, of great wealth. people over

last year, pat buchanan said putin is headed straight for the nobel peace prize. he said this.but to be fair, they give those to just about anybody these days. ted cruz said that denying the existence of climate change made him like gallileoo. that's not republican an apt comparison. he believes it revolves around the sun. ted cruz believes it revolves around ted cruz. and just as an aside. when i guy who has his face on a hope poster calls you self-centered, you know you have got a problem. >> he has, you know, gotten better over the years. he was good from the start. >> he seemed to nervous the first year. >> but his timing is so good. >> i know. i wonder if he writes his own jokes. >> i'm sure he participates in the process, but some of the hits, you would expect some professional writers. >> right. >>> so next, the best lines from this year's dinner, and next, presidential historian weighs in on the humor last night, his enduring legacy and his funny clothes, last night. >>> obama out. rson. my name is barbara and i make dog chow natural in davenport, iowa. now that i work

american politics and contest with globalism and nationalism defined by senator jeff sessions, and pat buchanans, do you see it as one of the choices? >> i have different view on trade, but i think that the passion demonstrate by some in e.u. for super national institutions, barack obama and hill lil hillary clinton preference for international institution that direct and control american policy. lou: consume our sovereignty. >> right, we don't have enough control over our government, can you imagine sharing control with an international organization, this is say huge issue, i think that americans understand here, it is we the people who are sovereign, giving that up to a international institution, reduces their ability control their own government. lou: watching -- one world liberal like barack obama, espouse through his secretary of state, a borderless gloib, globe, and hillary clinton going too continue an accelerate our loss of sovereignty. could think of putting her in white house through their actions. >> elections are bad choices, you could have all disagreements with donald trump, it is

joan, i'm going to stay with you a little bit and talk about pat buchanan. out with a piece in which he talked about donald trump in glowing terms, especially called him the great white hope. let me graed a littread a littl. angry white male is now an acceptable slur in culture and politics. so it is that people see in donald trump someone who unapologetically berates and mocks the elise who have dispossessed them and despise them. is it so surprising that the donnel as seen by millions as the great white hope. that is who marco rubio is now honored to be down with. what do you make of the idea of this nostalgia pushing the donald trump candidacy, particularly white nostalgia? >> i think it's very real. you see it in all the polling that goes into issues of looking back at a better time as well as racial animus. that's what indicates a trump voter more than education, more than income, it's the answers on questions of did we have a better country and are we giving too many things away to minorities. but i think the really funny thing for those who read pat bu

they've been there since pat buchanan. this candidacy has reinvented itself and has been revived and reanimated every generation. trump is just the latest guy. >> i was talking to some trump associates in the last hour. i said, what's next and they said look for trump to come to washington, d.c. if not in the next week, d.c. if not in the next week, in the next few days and start to build the relationships and repair the party. it's not just about the overtures he made to cruz with the hard right but with the washington establishment that's warming to him, but there's chilliness. >> who is going to come out -- i remember all this from '64. there were certain republicans who staked out a position of opposition to barry goldwater, and there were a lot that went along because they wanted futures in the party and i pretty much remember them and nixon and all those people remember who they were. they're ones that stuck with the party. it's smart to stay with the party if you have a career. >> there's a lot of senators making th

people in the conservative wing of the party, instead they've unleashed the flying monkeys, the pat buchanans and the sarah palins. you have sarah palin being one of the arbteres of what is rational conservative discourse in america today. >> and the primary may be like the god father where you have to knock everyone out. that's not the general. in your view, as a trump critic, does he even get that? >> no, what you saw is that he's not interested in unifying the party and he is incapable of doing that kind of out reach or changing his approach to critics and people he's going to need in this election. it's a matter of mathematics. if you do not have addition, given where he's at on some of these demographic groups, if you're not able to add in the main constituencies of the republican party, there's no way he can win. but perhaps the man lacks the self control to do what needs to be done in the campaign. >> is this a prelewd to some sort of cume by yeah deal or do you see him going into november with this distance from trump? >> paul ryan is a bed rock conservative and has been his entire li

camp who look at his record at governor of massachusetts, back to the 1992 convention, booed by pat buchanan delegates saying he wanted delegates out of the bedrooms of american. a very libertarian position. through other positions he has flummoxed some potential supporters and almost enraged some that won't get behind him. i think this is the issue he's having now. finding a way to connect with the libertarian party, with the libertarian delegates here. it's something he has to work on. the big problem now, he does not have a lot of time. it all ends this weekend. they decide this weekend and bill weld needs to make up a lot of ground fast. >> excellent reporting, phil, thank you. >>> donald trump's latest campaign stop in california once again rocked by violent protests. trump is praising police for arresting at least 35 people, tweeting this morning, san diego p.d., fantastic job on handling the thugs who try to disrupt our very peaceful and well-attended rally. greatly appreciated. this all began as pro-trump and anti-trump demonstrators came face to face after the raly when thousands of

hed the challenger in pat buchanan, and that helped make bush a one-term president. joining me now is a man whose emblematic of the split in the republican party. republican senator jeff flake of izona who said he's not ready to support trump, but he hasn't ruled it out. senator flake, welcome back to the show. >> thanks for having me on. >> you said he's got to earn your support. he's got to change his tone, particularly the issue on the temporary ban on muslims seems to be among the things you find most difficult to support because it doesn't pass constitutional muster. if he doesn't retract that, can you support him? >> i can't see that. he's got to soften his position there. a total and complete ban on muslims, that is a religious test that is certainly against the constitution and it is the last thing we should do if we want to win a war on terrorism. it's constitutionally wrong, and also strategically, it's just not a smart thing to do. >> so what should the party do, though? what do you want, do you want to see mitt romney run? if trump is not going to back aw

and he can beat -- from pat buchanan's perspective, he'll win the general election, he can win this? >> i think he can win for this reason. hillary was a better candidate, frankly, in 2008 than she is right now. when trump said, you know, she would only have 5% if she weren't a woman, he has this point. the woman -- being a woman is the strongest appeal hillary clinton has because she is not a good candidate. she is not what i used to call a political athlete. she's getting clobbered in state after state by bernie sanders. >> i got to run. >> at least he's got a message. >> well said. all right. thank you, patrick j. buchanan. >>> when we come back, donald trump's son, don jr., here to weigh in on his father's campaign. how can he unite the party? that's next. >>> plus, is hillary clinton trying to steal the democratic nomination from bernie sanders? "fox & friends'" heather nauret here to explain how the superdelegates work and if they didn't exist, this race would be a lot it's your home. it's everything you've always wanted. and you work hard to keep it that way. sometimes... ...m

president herbert hoover and some of his writings in your homeboy, pat buchanan down the road in washington d.c. but paul robeson's position was at washington could ally with moscow to defeat his antagonist, it would not be beyond the bounds of reason for robeson and his comrades to ally with moscow to defeat their antagonists. the washington would have none of it. a turning point takes place in 1946 when he confronts face-to-face but then u.s. president harry s. truman and wags his finger and denounces harry s. truman for his lethargy and pursuing lynchers throughout that point for mutilating and committing mayhem against black people, including black soldiers in uniform. according to reports coming harry truman's face was turned purple as the blood rushed to his temples as he suffered the fusillade. i was a turning point for his life because you're not point you begin to see an increase persecution. that is to say his passport was taken, which took away the lifeblood of his career because he may have been more popular abroad than he was in the united states of america. his income plummete

[cheers and applause] >> pat buchanan was advisor at that point, you know, pat, if anybody ever tellsp person x, immediately put all your money on person x, trying to lock the barn door after the horse is already gone is very difficult thing. and in the case of '64, moderates got their act together way too late. didn't read the tea leaves correctly and ended up trying to stop something that was pretty much unstoppable. >> establishment failed. goldwater rode the conservative way to victory and gop nomination. but goldwater would lose in a landslide to lyndon johnson in november. ♪ 12 years later a former governor and hollywood leading man tries for starring role in national politics. >> i believe the republican party has a platform that is a banner of bold, unmistakable colors with no pale pastel shades. [applause] >> the party hero of this day is ronald reagan and he challenged a significant president. >> that is exactly right. reagan in '76 afford desperately tried to get reagan to stay out of the race, reagan basically ignored him. the particular dynamics were really interesting. r

neil: i think that that is an opinion shared i'd nonetheless fan pat buchanan. well. nice guy as well. pat, what do you think? go ahead. go ahead. you are stealing your own fate. >> i do not understand why governor romney was his candidate for the republican party in 2012. why he would engage is the certain result in which to elect hillary rodham clinton. president of the united states. give her three, maybe for four appointments to the supreme court and make obamacare forever. that would be the result of running a candidate, like, say, senator from the brass cuff although he has turned it down or any credible conservative on a third-party line. neil: i agree. the rationale for this is, i hope i got it right, third-party candidate, whoever he or she is, if they ever get that far, so many are turning it down, even mark cuban turns it down, but, it would rob potential, potentially, not getting on all the state ballots in taxes, it would rob a candidate, potentially, of getting the 270 electoral votes you or she would need to become president. a lot of those not big

. >> i'm pat buchanan, the conservative on "crossfire." >> the american people appreciated the new televisiondroves. >> mr. gorbachev and i both agree on the desirability of freer and more extensive personal contact between the peoples of the soviet union and the united states. >> we began to realize that the best way to get a message to a foreign leader was to have the president go in the rose garden and make a statement. because everybody was watching cnn. >> cnn was a breakthrough. it changed the whole world. >> it changed quickly. the network news business. that business that we weren't the only ones. and it was hard. it's hard to be on the top little perch and have to come down off it. >> a special segment tonight, the network news. the first in a two-part series on the profound changes taking place in television news. changes being brought about by business, competition and technology. >> there were a variety of reasons why people who worked at the broadcast networks were freaked out in 1980s. one of them was cnn. and the rise of cable. another was being taken over by foreign entities i

. >> i would say that it includes, if you will, the h ross perot and pat buchanan voters.hey are not all republicans or even independent. when you look at west virginia democrats, there is no question at all, they are angry at this administration destroying their economic safety and no alternative. many people are looking for those who do something. they believe enough that they are willing to shake-up the status quo. donald trump is saying many of the same things that you or i or others might have said in the past. but people know that we have been saying it and not getting it done. here's somebody who is willing to get down and force it to happen with the support of republicans and the opposition of democrats, but the support of an american people who is a broader audience than we have seen under the nominees of our party. >> my grandmother said it's not what you say, but how you say it. how donald trump is saying things. congressman, i appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. >> a win for bernie sanders tuesday wouldn't put him ahead of hillary clinton in the overall ra

. >> i'm pat buchanan, the conservative on "crossfire." >> the american people appreciated the new televisionves. >> mr. gorbachev and i both agree on the desirability of freer and more extensive personal contact between the peoples of the soviet union and the united states. >> we began to realize that the best way to get a message to a foreign leader was to have the president go in the rose garden and make a statement. because everybody was watching cnn. >> cnn was a breakthrough. it changed the whole world. >> it changed quickly. the network news business. that business that we weren't the only ones. and it was hard. it's hard to be on the top little perch and have to come down off it. >> a special segment tonight, the network news. the first in a two-part series on the profound changes taking place in television news. changes being brought about by business, competition and technology. >> there were a variety of reasons why people who worked at the broadcast networks were freaked out in the 1980s. one of them was cnn. and the rise of cable. another was being taken over by foreign entities

because a lot of conservatives, pat buchanan way back when talked about this, rand paul talks about this, ted cruz and donald trump talk about this a little bit. a lot of conservatives who are against big government don't like a big military, don't like military intervention. and as long as the enemy was communism, they were ready to be interventionists. but after that was, after the soviet union fell, a lot of conservatives returned to their anti-interventionist roots. so you do have a real split on the right even on that fundamental issue. so your point, i think, is well taken. i talk about some of the problems with holding this coalition together. conservatives aren't unique in having coalition management problems as democrats are noticing at the moment. but they have a very particular philosophical set of problems that they've been struggling with for about 70 years. >> and if i could just add on, i do think that's interesting. trump brings up a real anti-interventionist strain that in some way even overlaps with, say, bernie sanders supporters and those much further to the left end

really saw somebody go into a republican convention with a lot of delegates in their pocket was pat buchananbig speech on the floor talking about the culture war and these kinds of things. in the end george h.w. bush lost the presidency. will ted cruz go to the convention floor and what does that do to the party overall and what does that do going forward in november? >> i think he will push certain agendas and fly into kentucky with kim davis. those are dying issueses and we need to focus on the economy. i hope ted cruz focuses on the long game. running in 2020 is the next step as donald trump loses to hillary clinton. we will see if they put the republican party first or puts their own ambition first. >> we appreciate you joining us. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> well, hillary clinton winning tonight's primary in washington state, but in a perfect example of just how convoluted, there is a word for you, how convoluted this process has become, the primary doesn't matter. >> that's a big word at 3:07 in the morning. the caucuses that were back in march do matter and sanders won those by a

basically, pat you can, his campaign agenda is pat buchanan without the social policy. the united states are not the world's policeman. diminishing returns as far as we get in return. trade deals that are disastrous for us, industrialized, and what is some of the republicans who are abandoning ship, such as william kristol, who basically really never was much of a republican other than the pro-israel interventionist foreign policy, middle east, and because stop donald trump is rejecting this interventionism, they now want a third-party candidate. it is horrendous. host: we showed the column earlier in the show today and here it is again. a chance to respond. isst: i think there something to of the caller just said. there is a similarity between some elements of a trump platform as it has developed so far, and those of pat the canon. an old friend of mine, we disagree mightily on some pieces of this, particularly the idea of engagement from the world -- disengagement from the world. i do not think we are the world's policeman and i do not think we can safely be isolated

this is ripping a page from pat buchanan's playbook and ross perot's playbook. >> it's populist, to theun to the left of hillary clinton on a number of issues. >> on war, on trade. >> war and trade. he will certainly be to the left of her and he will portray her as a tool of the system that is rigged against you and me. >> so in order to -- yes, joe? >> i'm just stretching out. directing traffic. >> i was going to say yes, donald trump came out of nowhere politically but certainly not culturally. he arrives in this moment where everybody is sick of politicians. he has 100% name id, he's got money. he can fill this void. it was perfect storm in culture and he steps into it. >> intellectual elites in washington and boston. >> i don't think that's true. >> surprised, i don't think intellectual elites are. i think the comfortable, wherever they are, are surprised that the economic anger was so deep and so close to the surface. if you're on the right side of the economic equation. >> i will say first year of "morning joe," my dad said this, he did. >> donald trump will get the nomination. >>

similarity between some elements of the trump platform as it has developed so far and that of pat buchananisagree mightily on some pieces of this am a particularly the idea of disengagement from the world. i do not think we are the world's policeman, i do not think we can safely be isolated from it, either. i think there is a happy balance to be struck. i'm convinced, based on a lot of hard experience, that the world is a safer place when our strength is unquestioned and when our allies have confidence in us. and when our enemies are persuaded that there is no profit to them from acting aggressively against us, our interests or our allies. that is something here had talked about somewhat but less so that i would like your -- wou ld like. is an old friend, i think you have done a disservice to them. i think a third-party candidacy will result in the election of hillary clinton in a policy approach that i would not support. >> ron, good morning. >> thank you very much, i am honored to speak with you. the thing about donald trump is, he really scares me because he does think and he reacts off