and he does know steve wynn.elson, the other major player in the gaming industry here. 10 would he be good? i guess we don't know what donald trump is going to do as president, right? that's a big mystery. and it's still a long shot in my opinion that he ever becomes president. >> we got a lot of pictures of mr. trump and mr. wynn smiling, standing very close to each other. do they actually get along? i understand -- >> siegfried and roy. >> i understand they've been in a feud for quite some time. >> it's really an amazing story. maybe the love story that will be made into a movie some day. i still remember when i first started writing the column about 25 years ago, and i wrote a column calling steve wynn the donald trump of the west, which sent him into quite the tizzy. he called me. i still can't believe someone could keep their voice at that decibel level for that long. these guys really did not like each other. they were fierce rivals in atlantic city. never in vegas. but much more recently, steve wynn and do

steve when -- steve steve wynn. they like you. [laughter] you are self-made multi billionaire and how did you do that? i am told the town was seedy but you built hotels that were more appealing but i would think a lot of people had that idea. >> ideas are easy but doing it is difficult. john: what was difficult? i am not a billionaire. >> first of all, having the benefit of the fis has coeducation that i got to go to college. when my father died we were broke. >> he was in debt $350,000. >> but i had everything i needed to make of life for myself or real life not by twitter or facebook. o real life. not to a virtual was. [laughter] [applause] by all they cared to get on with it. get on with it. to hustle suitor later you get a break. i was interested to get started. john: you were a manager of a hotel. >> before that i was at the university of pennsylvania running being go --. [laughter] i had 60 employees and i was 16 years old. with my dad died that was the only thing that was left of the family business for cry was prepared to

at least according to steve wynn. co-founder of wynn resorts who quince denially just railed against both the high frequency traders and the manipulators in the earnings conference call last night. he knows the regulation is far weaker than that. so when wynn launched into a spirited and i think very convincing attack, the stock market process, i found myself agreeing with every point he made. in answer to a question about why his company just expanded the buyback, he said, well, we never know what the street will do with the funky trading and we all feel as individuals and the company that we should be prepared to take advantage of any real opportunity when it curves. so we just wanted to make sure that we are properly armed in case there was something strange that happened on wall street and the stock market dropped. or it went to a level that we thought was grossly oversold. we would jump on it. like the flash crash. in other words, they're playing games with the stock. knocking it down. moving it out. when he call

steve wynn. >> not afraid of taking on anybody. >> he does not play for dinner. every day, he gets up and says, today is the day i tell the truth. he says that casino gamblingambf they had the same regulators in the s.e.c. as in gambling, our markets would come back. they would stop hitting on 19. hit me. >> is that your number? >> there's very few cards that work when you hit on 19. >> got it. it was a black jack reference. >> we'll count down to the opening bell. take another look at the premarket. we're back in a minute. anything worth pursuing hard work and a plan. at baird, we approach your wealth management strategy the same way to create a financial plan built to last from generation to generation. we'll listen. we'll talk. we'll plan. baird. >>> all right. let's do it. we have a mad dash. it's friday. you're looking just fine there with your red tie. >> really? i don't know. ferragamo. yes, oil derricks. they have to get back to 45. >> you didn't get a recommendation on the tie from yelp. >> yelp delivered. i know earlier this week, at the eihorn was talk