therapeutic about it. we have been through this process. we actually have a name for it. morley helped name it, called pine box productions. it's a real unit. warren is the great editor. >> rose: pine box productions. and morley understood pine box productions were putting this story together we heard last sunday. >> rose: he knew he was dying. yes. >> rose: how did he approach it? >> as he approached everything else, really honestly. he didn't try to sugar coat it? deny it. >> he didn't try to deny it. he just said it. he said, i'm dying. this is it. and we believe and the nurses who were close to him and were wonderful, at his home, told us that they believed, after the special, that he'd let go. >> rose: let go. yeah, and he did. >> rose: saw the special. saw the special. i spoke -- >> rose: and whatever resistance -- >> maybe so. it happens all the time. you hear of it. he was so appreciative after the program. i said, morley, we can't do enough for you, and look what you've done for us? >> rose: what did he say. he was very hum snoobl you know it was meaningful to be in the room. >> it was meaningful. >> rose: he viewed in this conver