join me in welcoming john sullivan. [applause] mr.sullivan: ladies and gentlemen, many thanks for inviting me today. and for giving me such a generous introduction. [indiscernible] you have given me a highly controversial topic, namely brexit. and next week's referendum. the trouble on that question has been briefly stilled in britain by jo cox, who was murdered yesterday in the most brutal and horrible fashion by one of her constituents, who was mentally disturbed and not some kind of critical fanatic. -- political fanatic. most of us here in this room were not sure of her politics, but she was very spirited, a funny opponent, a wife, mother and someone who had risen from the background and the first member of her family to go to college and to the anteroom of high political office. we should mourn her passing and we should seek justice for the murder. all quarrels halt at the grave. we carry on disagreeing here. my topic is thatcher and brexit. a few months ago, it was almost the first battle of the referendum campaig

please join me in welcoming john sullivan [applause]. >> ladies in johnson, many thanks for invitingtoday. and for giving me such a generous introduction. as my mother used to say when she had thinks, time just doesn't be of to hold down a job. you have given me a very strong topic and highly controversial topic, namely weeks referendum. now controversy on that question has been briefly stilled in britain by a day of mourning for joe cox, the young person who is murdered yesterday in the most brutal and horrible fashion by one of the constituents. who who we must hope was a mentally disturbed man and not some kind of a political fanatic. most of us here in this room would not share his politics but it was adventurous intellectually, a wife and mother, someone who had risen from a poor background in the first member of her family to go to college. we should mourn her passing, seek justice for the murder and trust that she now lives in god's mercy. we, here carry-on increase. my topic today -- it seems to me a few months ago highly significant that it's almost the third battle of the r

. >> might thank john sullivan for a tremendous presentation today. and john, i hope you'll be back at heritage again in the coming months and you're one of our greatest friends so delighted to have you with us today and thank everybody for joining us today and we look forward to the brexit referendum next week on thursday. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> today a hearing on the progress made in the deployment of first net, a national public safety network for first responders. the senate commerce and science subcommittee meets live at 9:30 a.m. eastern and you can see it on c-span 3. and later, philadelphia mayor and democratic convention c.e.o. jim kenny talks about the planning for july's democratic national convention. we'll bring you that briefing live at 2:00 p.m. eastern also on c-span 3. >> today federal reserve chair janet yellen delivers the monetary report to congress. we'll have her testimony before the senate banking committee live at 10:00 a.m. e

. >> john sullivan, george mason university. there has been a number of excellent articles recently talking about the erosion of the democratic trend around the world and the revival of the authoritarian or autocratic tendencies. that was not one of the factors listed, but i wonder in your major overarching concerns, to what degree do you worry about this fracturing of democracy and increase of authoritarian revival? >> we will make my remarks available on the cia website and i do say in their that a lot of these governments and regimes have opted for authoritarian measures at the expense of democratic principles and human rights. i do think, unfortunately, some of these governments feel as though they are being overwhelmed by the security challenges they face and they will resort to some of the traditional measures of suppressing these challenges. we also have to recognize that western-style democracy which has taken several hundred years to take root and is continuing to be a journey for us that it is not a light switch that c

. >> john sullivan with george mason university. there have been a number of excellent articles recently in publications talking about the erosion of the democratic trend around the world and the arrival -- revival of autocratic tendencies. that was not one of the factors in youred but i wonder major and overarching concerns, to what degree do you worry about this fracturing of democracy and the increase of the authoritarian revival? we will make my remarks available on the cia website later today. i say in their a lot of these governments and regimes have opted on democratic principles and human rights. unfortunately, some of these governments feel as though they are being overwhelmed by the security cap -- challenges they face and they will be welcoming .ack traditional measures that it isrecognize continuing to be a journey for us. it is not a light switch that -- d be just in some of these cities, they are still socially, so -- culturally, politically, very unfamiliar with the practices and democratic principles we hold so dear.

george sullivan and i, late john blend, and john voy, had dinner here in fairfax and i was struck by something you said that day. i never heard this from an economist. carl marx had a lot to teach us. >> guest: sure he did. >> host: what is the connection? >> guest: my joke is carl marx, i say to my libertarian friends, i say carl marx was the greatest social scientist of the 19th century without compare. and they get mad at me. i turn to my left wing friends and i say and he was wrong about almost everything. so they get mad which is why i don't have any friends. >> host: you do here. >> guest: thank you. what marks -- i suppose you could say the questions marx asked are the important ones. is there a pattern to history? are there stages? are ideas independent of material conditions or is this structure a mere consequence of the material base? he asked all these questions and got all of the answers wrong but he asked the questions in a serious way. i have come to admire other people, too, but as a kid i was a marxist because i was a socialist. a joan biaz socialist i say. i know mor

. >> on a snowy winter day john mccafferty revisits the crash site for the first time in 35 years. with him, foster sullivan, one of the first responders who helped save his life. >> i said, what's your name? and he said john. he said, tell my parents that i love them and i'm going to heaven. >> i wanted them to know that, you know, if i was to die, which i honestly thought i was going to, that i would be in heaven and that i did not suffer. >> his pulse rate was so high i couldn't take it. low blood pressure, abdomen was distending. i knew he was coming to the end. >> he shouldn't be here today. he should be gone. >> mccafferty is critically injured. he's taken to the hospital where he spends more than a month recuperating from his injuries. it's now left to the ntsb to get to the bottom of what caused this deadly crash. the morning after the accident air safety investigator dr. al deal arrives with ago team. >> we over flew the wreckage. we saw it was a horrific impact. i certainly was amazed that there was even one survivor because the plane hit very violently, nose down, into the wooded area. >> deal ha

. >> and john mitcham is here as well. >> the battle of sullivan island. don't get it. are you kidding? >> they are idiots. don't listen to them. did you see what happened yesterday nicole? >> what happened? >>> iceland, 300,000 people. >> and they beat -- >> the hearts of britain are black this morning. what a horrible display. >> worse than brexit. >> the greatest in english soccer. >> i was actually talking about what happened in ohio where hillary clinton teamed up -- >> i wasn't talking about that. >> you didn't like it? >> i didn't say that. >> you look like you have a little -- >> no. > >> well, they teamed up. trump sent out a tweet saying crooked hillary is ruling out one of the least productive senators in the u.s. but at yesterday's event it was warren who was calling trump goofy. >> donald trump says he'll make america great again. it's right there. no. it's stamped on the front of his goofy hat. you want to see goofy? look at him in that hat. when donald trump says great, i ask, great for who exactly? for millions of kids struggling to get an