berry gordy jr. stay with us. >> it never gets old, >> determined to control and produce his own music, berry gordy jr. borrowed $800 from family members and founded the most successful black-owned music company in the world. you know it -- motown, the home of legendary groups like smokey robinson & the miracles, the supremes, the temptations, the jackson 5, and so many others. here in the studio this afternoon, the man behind the motown sound, >> thank you. it's a pleasure being here. >> does it ever get old hearing, you know, getting all those accolades, hearing about what you created really from nothing? >> no, it never gets old. and i appreciate it every time that i hear it. >> so, tell me the truth. sometimes when you hear the stories about what you've -- you know, all the people whose careers you got started, all that wonderful music, some of it hear that and you think about all those people and see them, does it ever surprise you just how much you have managed to stuff into one lifetime? >> yes

plus, the man behind the motown sound, berry gordy jr., talks about his rise to fame and the "motown: the musical." later, as the mount vernon public library honors hip-hop legend heavy d, his mother reflects on his life and music career. but first this afternoon, a look at how black police officers handle the dual role thrust upon them as the country grapples with the fallout in the wake of a string of controversial police shootings of unarmed black men and several tragic police killings. our guests today are both former