very attractive and the head wind now is questions about their merger with csigoncigna. it's u.s. entirely. i feel safe there. >> staples, still long on. intend to stay long on. utilities as well. so i think that once all those details stop, once you see a raising rate environment -- so this is the end, but we traded at 280, this might have been a big day. >> speaking of quote unquote safety trades, gold prices are at two year high, but the gold bond is done. >> what do you see happening here? >> it's a bad risk. it will go back and retest the lows of this cycle. so, what happens with commodities typically and gold is a commodity make no mistake, you get a bounce. you get some reverting. we just saw it. but what typically happens, it starts to peter out here in the next few months and it will go back and retest at 1050. maybe next year before it happen, but the technical chart at this point says maybe 1400, maybe 1440 if you're lucky, but 1050 is a downside. doesn't seem worth the risk to me. >> so, to be clear, you're telling clients to get out of gold because you see the risk to