nok, he is going to be fine matter what. he has got a sterling reputation.s what got him in this position twice now. he is 58. he has a long career ahead of him. whatever he wants to do, but it does sound not just for democrats i talked to but from republicans as well that many longtime political folks just feel that he is the safest, strongest choice for clinton in terms of his ability for some crossover appeal as well as to appeal to most sections of the democratic party. although the trade -- he may ha ve some work to do as it progresses. mark: we talked early in the show about how the democrats had a big presence in cleveland. the republicans will have one in philadelphia. the national party chair, opposition researchers. and certainly a meta presence, a virtual presence through a lot of press releases. matter of analysis, does that stuff affect the stories we get done by reporters covering the other party's conventions? phil: around the edges. i do not think it has a big impact. i think when you're in cleveland for the republican convention you want to

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