patsy wanted wendy to write her biography. i think wendy was unsure how to proceed with that. she didn't want to write a personal book. but she didn't want to write an academic work. so we're working together. it's been wonderful. she's beginning each of other chapters with a personal vignette and it's fantastic to able to get access to someone like her. i will find something in the archives and talking to her. this is what was going on in our family at the time and in terms of congressional debate. she grew up around the house of representatives. i mentioned child care before. so as a teenager she would take the bus from her school go to her mother's office and just roam the halls of congress. she would pick up on conversations here and there and they were a very political family so at dinner time they would sit and talk about vietnam, talk about welfare, talk about the environment, and so it's been wonderful to be able to collaborate with her. >> has your research on congresswoman mink influenced at all how you study women in politic? >> absolutely. i'm going to be talking a