especially because terry mcauliffe is so close to the clintons. that is why the smackdown from jake sullivan, brian fallon, john podesta, they are saying the governor of virginia is flat wrong and also puts more pressure on tim kaine because clinton in her conversations with tim kaine before choosing him as the nominee had to get him to back down from his previously held position in support of the trade deal. which he had always endorsed. so you've got a little awkwardness there just as tim kaine is going to be taking the stage here tonight on behalf of the ticket. >> andrea mitchell, thank you so much, that was a terrific interview with terry mcauliffe, he will be tom robert's guest next half hour. be sure to stay tuned for that. >>> meanwhile jackie spear, a democrat from california sits on the house armed services committee and is out here with me now. thanks so much. >> my pleasure. >> i want to play more of what we just heard from donald trump about russia's role in finding those messing clinton e-mails. let's take a listen. >> mook, i saw him on television, and they asked him about rus