but afterwards, our own riley schneider wanted to know about donald trump's taxes. hillary clinton has released her tax returns. showed she and bill clinton made about $10 million last year. not bad. people asked about some of their charitable contributions. trump has refused to release his tax return, saying that he's under audit and he can't. even though that doesn't prevent him from doing it. schneider asked mike pence about that. >> i think i'd just recommend the timing on that, but i know he's under an audit at this time. and given the -- i think i saw a photograph of his tax returns. it was out of about a year ago, and his tax returns are considerably longer than mine, than most americans. as he works through that audit, i know they'll be making that available at the appropriate time. >> you almost have to feel sorry for mike pence, who has had to say many times during this campaign, you'll have to ask the campaign. you know, the campaign that he is a part of. that's what he told us. they're counting on not many people caring whether donald trump is really wor