. >> to john mccain's treeg, senator flake. you can not supporting donald trump at the moment, but you met with hisni pence. he try to convince you to support mr. trump? >> mike and i go way back. i have a lot of respect for him. he talked about the ticket. i certainly respect him. i told him i'm not ready to support trump. >> john: when he talked, what was the pitch? >> that donald trump is a different guy entirely than he's shown in public. he has influence on donald trump. but i've yet to see donald trump change positions. he needs to change, and particularly change the tone and tenor of the debates to win the election in november. >> john: that's something we hear a lot from those supporting mr. trump that he's different in private than in public. >> if you could govern in private, i guess that's okay, but statements he's making particularly in arizona. the statements he made out of the gate about those crossing the border being rapists and what not. that doesn't sit well, and then to refer to a judge born in indiana as a m