so obama did not directly say american shining city on a hill, but he invoked that if they would be up to the pessimism he perceives in the trunk campaign and then hillary clinton says she affirmed that america is a city on a hill and it fascinates me the way this phrase, which never had to be attached to america, one of my favorite historian says everything could end the frame. there is no reason why city on a hill ever had to become attached to america any more than any other phrase, but it has proven durable. tired? yes. i think even the way it gets trotted out as a tagline i think shows whether we see this or not, shows that it is very weary as a phrase. it has become a clichÉ. it has become part of a war of words. it is something the riesling at each other in a political contest. he used to believe in a city on a hill. you don't believe the city on a hill anymore or maybe ted cruz turned republican campaign saying we used to be a city on a hill until barack obama and now we are no longer a city on a hill. though for me and we will again be the city on the hill. so it is a phrase t

that is so controversial for president obama and set eyes still believe she may have even said shining city on the hill and adjusted july at the democratic national convention president obama unconnected himself more directly than he ever has showy durability. and and criticize a donald trump and he said ronald reagan? student sobol where did say a sack lee that but he did both that as a rebuke. but that never had to be attached to america about my favorite historian said everything could have been different. is a. >> or maybe ted crews for the republican campaign to say we used to be the city on the hill and tell barack obama but now we're no longer felt for be and with the rhetorical baggage that i fear the phrase was burning itself out. laugh first inasmuch less in the 26 campaign compared to 2012 but here it is said again and last phase of the 26 campaign. >> and the indication of that? met other word was chose some. want and that will try not to go into too much detail but simply to the bare kens and general. to recognize a phrase that they stuck by pregnant and. >> is addressed to ame

. >> i thought a shining city upon a hill. >> our >> teaming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace. >> they are rapists. >> for all the pilgrims from all the lost places. >> i will build a great, great wall. >> and if there had to be city walls the walls had doors. >> i will make that wall inpenetrable. >> the doors were opened to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. >> remember reagan is remembered as an optimist at heart while donald trump has run to that end you can compare donald trump to jimmy carter. >> we're in trouble. >> they are laughing at us. >> our neck is stretched over the fence. >> they can't get jobs. because there are no jobs. >> it is a crisis of confidence. >> we have no protection. and we have no competence. >> while comparisons apply to a certain extent they can be overdrawn. remember, reagan also says pessimistic things before he won and changed the direction and hill. and like trump, reagan could get testy and confrontational with hecklers. >> shut up. >> while you can contrast reagan and trump you can compare them in ways democrats may

we're still reagan's shining city on a hill. >> and ahead of trump's big immigration speech, a reality check. >> we don't even have a border. people are just flowing through like water. there is no border right now. >> we'll show you where donald trump is misleading voters on immigration when "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. it's a very big news night, and it has been a big news day. we are now just one hour from. doctor's highly anticipated speech on immigration in arizona, where we hope we'll get a clear answer to the question his campaign steadfastly refuses to answer. does trump still back a so-called deportation force, that would scour the country to expel the roughly 11 million people living in the u.s. without documentation. which was trump's position in the republican primary. or is he reversing his stance in favor of policy more appealing to general election voters. but first to mexico, a country trump has vilified and whose people largely disdain trump in return. mexico's pres

he saw america as a shining city on the hill. donald trump call its a divided crime scene. he's offering division and fear. >> and there is tremendous buzz about the leaked e-mails from secretary of state colin powell. powell called trump a national disgrace and blasted back in may writing, i told hillary's minions repeatedly they are making a mistake to drag me in. yet they try. the media is not fooled and she's getting crucified. no comments from the clinton campaign responding to the leaked e-mails, jon. >> as if things could get more interesting in this election. thank you. >> fox news alert. we are getting new details after donald trump's health after audience say mr. trump shared a letter and discussed his health and they say he's healthy enough to be president. this is the audience of that show. we'll see the show officially tomorrow. and all of this though after the trump campaign initially said he would not share medical information. both candidates handling questions about their health. how important is it in this campaign. we'll talk to the senior analyst. we ask

in that american legion speech in the shining city of cincinnati, clinton tried to reclaim the mantleamerican exceptionalism which americans have spent the past eight years claiming obama and his party have abandoned as a guiding principle of american foreign-policy. mrs. clinton: my opponent in this race has said clearly that he thinks american exceptionalism is insulting to the rest of the world. in fact, when vladimir putin of all people criticized american exceptionalism, my opponent agreed with him, saying and i quote, "if you are in russia, you don't want to hear that america is exceptional." well, maybe you don't want to hear it, but that does not mean it is not true. john: simple question, how effective do you think clinton was in counterprogramming against all this trump news? nicolle: listen if you are on a , campaign and are confident that your base is excited and you're going after republicans, then you are on stronger terrain than your opponent, and there is no doubt she is on stronger terrain with this message. i think the challenge for them, i think on the question of c

>> he saw america as a shining city on the hill. donald trump calls it a divided crime scene. he's not offering policies or plan, just offering division and fear. he's betting if he scares enough people he might scare up enough votes to win this election. i mean, look i believe americans are not a fearful people. we don't look for being ruled. our power comes from those ideals first put in place right here in philadelphia that all of us are created equal, that we the people can form a more perfect union we don't believe one person is going to do it for us. it's what we can do together achieved by us. it's hard but that's the necessary work of self-government but hillary clinton understands that. she's been through it. she knows in a democracy in a big diverse country like this one it doesn't work if we demonize'm other and call each other names. she knows love trumps hate. [ cheers and applause ] she knows you have to compromise even when you're 100% right and she knows for progress to happen we have to listen to each other and we have to see ourselves in each other and we hav

. >> host: the shining city on the hill. >> guest: you get from the people, i'm on your side, not their side, so eight before that anti-politicianing? to get there to be head of state and a very lofty turn of phrase, and magnificently the television address in the night of the challengeer disaster, touching the face of god and all that, magnificent traditional references and could own it all and front it up, and by the way, many people still think of reagan as an actor who was saying other people's word sometimes he was but with some very, very good early speeches from reagan which are entirely written by him. an exceptionally good writer as well as good speaker. it's possible that bill clinton is an exceptional -- again, exceptional public speaker. even today, this year, talking about muhammad ali and elsewhere, and wonderful, wonderful speaker, and barack obama as could campaigner and indeed not just as a campaigner but set peace ore oratory and in some ways it's not the set piece. it's the fragment, the answers to questions, it's the -- turn of a phrase and that's an area where the g

we're still reagan's shining city on a hill.e're still robert kennedy's great, unselfish come passionate country. >> my opponent in this race said very clearly that he thinks american exceptionalism is insulting to the rest of the world. in fact, when vladimir putin, of all people, criticized american exceptionalism, my opponent agreed with him. saying and i quote, if you're in russia, you don't want to hear that america is exceptional. >> now clinton's speech could be seen as another attempt to win over republicans wary of trump, but she may have also tried to appeal to those who differ with president obama's foreign policy. the president was criticized by republicans after a 2009 news conference when he was asked whether he believed in american exceptionalism. >> i believe in american exceptionalism, just as i suspect that the brits believe in british exceptionalism and the greeks believe in greek exceptionalism. i am enormously proud of my country and its role and history in the world. >>> hillary clinton kept sending classif

children and your grandchildren and mine and carol's will have a chance just as we did to live in a shining city upon a hill, may it be so. god bless you. ♪ >> he's one of our favorites. thank you, gary. thank you so much. now, ladies and gentlemen, it's my great honor to introduce our next speaker who became pretty much a household name as one of the stars of the hit tv show "growing pains." now, a lot of you may not have known this, but during those years, he was actually an atheist. but at the age of 20, he found jesus christ as his personal savior, and ever since then has become an outspoken christian activist, speaking on behalf of jesus christ in every venue possible. through his outstanding films, media, and writing appearances, he's committed to courageously stand for the values that are important to all of us. so ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome to the stage kirk cameron. >> good evening. i'm a little jet lagged. i got in from california so i'm still working on the time zone, and to be honest where you, i was a little rattled by gary bauer's speech. wow. i would have liked

he saw america as a shining city on a hill. donald trump calls it a divided crime scene. he's not offering any real policies or plans, just offering division and offering fear. and he's betting if you scares enough people, he might just scare up enough votes to win this election. i mean, look, i believe americans are not a fearful people. we don't look for being ruled. our power comes from those ideals first put into place right here in philadelphia, that all of us are created equal. that we the people can form a more perfect union. we believe in democracy. that's what we believe in. we believe that one person is going to do it for us. it's what we can do together. achieve bias. and, yes, it's hard and slow and sometimes frustrating to persuade people and work with people and form coalitions, but that's the necessary work of self-government. that's what hillary clinton understands. because she's been through it. she knows that in a democracy, in a big diverse country like this one, it doesn't work if we just demonize each other and call each other names. she knows that lo

we had a president that described it as the shining city on the hill. the united states of america welcomed my parents and their three kids into the united states to participate and join in the american dream. we have lived the american dream. in 1956, when my parents came, and this is a sidestep, you had to actually have a sponsor family that would help your family integrate. they would find you a place to live. they would find you a job. they would integrate you into the community. they recognized how important assimilation was. i was only 3. my brother and sister were a little older. they went to school the first day they came here. they knew no english. the systemdemning for english as a second language in the classroom, but i brother and sister went to school and were taught in english. they had to figure it out. guess what, they learned bush very quickly. we had a sponsor family. we were originally supposed to go to ohio. shortly before we came to america, our sponsor family and out backs out -- backed with dad to find another sponsor family. , th

we're still reagans shining city on a hill.ll robert kennedy's great, unselfish, compassionate country. my opponent in this race has said very clearly that he thinks american exceptionalism is insulting to the rest of the world. in fact, when vladimir putin, of all people, criticized american exceptionalism my opponent agreed with him saying and i quote, "if you're in russia you don't want to hear that america is exceptional." >> she was reaching out to republicans there, but the latest round of polls. i have to say surprises even me how far she has dropped. >> down six in wisconsin. >> i'm the one that has always said to angry democrats. the e-mail stuff and the foundation stuff matters, but i'm even surprised. willie, she's dropped like six points in wisconsin. >> six in wisconsin. >> she's dropping. trump's up, she's down. you see it in the national polls and you see it in wisconsin. this latest round. i knew it was having an impact, but the latest round really seems to have a big impact on her. especially favorables. "washi

let the flame of freedom burn bright so that all the world can see, that we are once again that shining cityarch council. and may god bless america. thank you. ♪ these are the days of america ♪ ♪ brother to brother ♪ hand in hand ♪ these are the days of america ♪ ♪ walking together >> for campaign 2016, c-span continues on the road to the white house. >> we are going to get things done, big things. that's who we are as americans. >> we will have one great american future. our potential is unlimited. >> ahead, live coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates on c-span, the c-span radio app and c-span.org. monday september 26th is the first presidential debate and then governor mike pence and tim kaine debate at longwood university in farmville, virginia. and on sunday, october 9, washington university in st. louis hosts the second presidential debate. leading up to the third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump at the university university university of las vegas, nevada. listen on the c-span radio app or watch live on or demand at any time at c-span.org. >

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panel, we can before thinking and we can think about what a shining city on the hill for republicans and democrats could look like. >> james, do you want to take it? >> sure, i thought i would be opponent view the here. most people talk about how hillary clinton is going to win in a landslide. and so, i guess i assumed everyone -- but i agree with ken -- i reject the premise that the election has been decided. i think august is awfully early to declare a winner. but that said, i hate allege that hillary clinton is the soored based on poll numbers far. but to put that in perspective, if you go to a website -- to find probabilities based on bets that people are making in betting markets. people >> these things are not always right. brexit was something like a 4:1 underdog and passed. the figure for trump is just about 20%. it sounds like not very much. this sounds like a very small chance. on the other hand, to put that into perspective, if i were to roll a pair of dice and guess what i was going to roll, your best guess would be seven because that is the most common combination. the o

children and grandchildren and mine and carroll's will have a chance, adjust as be did to live in a shining cityll, naked be so. got less. [applause] ♪ ♪ >> thank you so much. it is my great honor to introduce our next speaker who became a household name as the hit tv show growing pains. he may not have known this but during those years he was an atheist. that the age of 20 he found jesus christ as his personal savior and ever since then is an outspoken christian activist speaking on behalf of jesus christ through his outstanding films and radio and television and media appearances to courageously stand with the values for all of us? please welcome to the stage kirk cameron. ♪ [applause] ♪ >> good evening. i have a little jet lag i got in from california i am working on the time zone and to be honest of oslo rattled by gary speech. [applause] audit lead like to have five minutes to recover from some of the statements because they know they are true. i gutted last night from california and i flew in to stay with my sister and her husband and kids. did we win and visited my eight nephews soccer pr

from sky6 live hd you can see the sun is shining in atlantic city, but the storm is creating rough surf which is causing beach erosion. let's get the latest from meteorologist karen rogers at the big board for david murphy. hi, karen. >> reporter: hi, alicia, as you look at the image you can see the size of hermine barely moving at 6 miles per hour. look how far it is from our coastline, about 300 miles off the coast of atlantic city and delaware. even though it is projected to make a jog toward the west, it's far enough out the impact that we'll see are minimal even along the coastline. here's what to expect. we'll continue to see the waves that erupt, 8 to 12-foot waves, dangerous rip currents that will continue for the next couple of days. be careful and stay out of the water. some beach erosion, we're seeing some. some of the winds are pulling out of the north as owe posted to the northeasterly. that will improve conditions there. minor coastal flooding. we have another high tide between 10:30 and 11:00 p.m. where we'll see minor coastal flooding tonight. as we look at the satellite

the riptides are dangerous but the beaches are hopping and the sun is shining in ocean city. that's a good thing. good afternoon. happy labor day. hermine is that holiday guest that won't go away. unlike your unwanted what's the latest? >> it really turned out to be okay for our weather. at the beaches it was gusty and they had rain but things did clear up. it's still windy. it is post tropical still. it's still need hurricane strength with 70-mile per hour winds. this is the latest advisory from 11:00. it's pick up its pace about six miles an hour but that's nearly stationary in the storm terms. it is going to head to the northwest a little bit. that's why we have tropical storm warnings in place from the jersey coast through nantucket. it's not until mid week that the storm gets out of everybody's hair. maybe you are doing a late beach week, those rip currents will stick around. i would wait for the all clear from the life guards. this is how strong the winds will be right through nantucket tonight through tomorrow. they will see tropical storm force winds. that's warning i

so that this shining city will forever stay on the hill. you can do that. that's what the church can do. that's what the faith believing community can do. we can be that element that does the work that has to be done in the next 60 days. so there is a future. there is a hope. and there is a choice. god bless you. thank you for letting me share this time with you this afternoon. i love you all. thank you. ♪ ♪ >> thank you, michelle bachmann. value, voters, the hundreds of thousands that are watching us, there is more of us than there are of them when it comes to voting. we just need to vote. as i said earlier, the last election, it turned on 335,000 votes in four swing states, and it made all the difference in the world. if just a slight tick up among he wi eligible voters, you do are a vote and you express your vote. it is your right. more than your right. it is your duty. it is your duty. all right, ladies and gentlemen, coming now is a man who could very well be the longest running chairman for the republican national convention in history. that's how goo

ronald reagan called america a shining city on the hill, whose doors were open to anyone with the will and heart to come here. here is what he said about refugees. i am quoting republican president ronald reagan. continue america's tradition as a land that welcomes people from other countries. we shall, with other countries, continue to share in the responsibility of welcoming and settling those who flee oppression. ronald reagan. compare that with the current republican presidential nominee. notwithstanding his own immigrant mother, two immigrant wives, and the hard work of immigrants who contribute to his company and his wealth, donald trump and his loyalists have made demonizing immigrants and refugees a key plank of his party platform. america cannot build its future on fear and hate. today's refugees will become proud americans who contribute greatly, like amir. borders walls on our and fear in our hearts will not move this nation forward. let's not continue the cruelty and deception of blaming immigrants and refugees for economic challenges. let's work together to build a better

city. >>> turning now to the forecast another hot day today and starting to feel more like fall over the weekend. the sun is shining bright over center city and it's hard to believe it is fall with highs in the upper 80s but that could change over the next day or two. lets turn it over to melissa magee live at the big board with the forecast. >> if you are a fan of sweater weather, you'll like the forecast as we head into the official fall weekend, as you mentioned on the warm side this afternoon. currently coming in at 78 in the city and 79 in allentown and 77 in the appointment and at the shore cape may 74. dew point numbers are not bad for the i-95 corridor and north and west in the upper 50s and 60s but the 70 degree dew point creeping up for cape may and 69 in dover an indication of moisture heading into our region as the ridge of high pressure loses its grip in the area. here is satellite 6 along with action radar we are dry and quiet and the disturbance stay as way from us, we are tracking the cold front across northern sections of new england and the great lakes, this will dip on down to the south and east

to maintain the social and moral contract that we have with generations yet unborn so that this shining cityill forever stay on the hill. you can do that, that's what the church can do. that's what the faith-believing community can do. we can be that element that does the work that has to be done in the next 60 days, so there is a future, there is a hope and there is a choice. god bless you and thank you for letting me share this time. i love you all, thank you. [music] >> thank you, michelle. wonderful. aren't you glad she's on our side. folks to reiterate much of what you've heard, and i say this to value voters and hundreds of thousands that are watching us, there's just more of us when there are of them in terms of voting, we need to vote as i said earlier, the last election turned about 335,000 votes in four swing states and made all the difference in the world. if just a slight tick up among eligible evangelical christian voters would go to the poll and vote. don't led -- let the med icon vince you that the race is over. you have a voice, it's your right. more than your right it's your

children and your grandchildren and mine and carol's will have a chance just as we did to live in a shining city

we had a president who described it as the city, the shining city on the hill, and so the united states of america welcomed my parents and their three kids into the united states to participate and join in the american dream. and we've lived the american dream. back in 1956, when my parents came, you know, you had to, and this is just a little bit of a side step, you had to actually have a sponsor family that would help your family integrate. they would find you a place to live. they would find you a job. they would integrate you into the community, because they recognized how important assimilation was. so my -- i was only 3. my brother and my sister were a little bit older. but they went to school the first day they came here. they knew no english. there weren't teachers and i'm not condemning, you know, assistants or english as a second language in the classroom or whatever, but my brother and sister went to school and they sat there and they were taught in english and they sat there and they had to figure it out. guess what? they learned english very, very quickly. but you know, so

. >> god has shined down on ocean city we're going to have a great labor day. >> reporter: surfers will spend as much time in the water as they can. expect your beach patrol to have restrictions in the water today. reporting in ocean city, annie mccormick channel 6 "action news." >> florida won't forget hermine anytime soon, floodwaters plague areas northwest of tampa forcing evacuations from low lying mobile home passion -- parks and apartment buildings. 350,000 people are without electricity. without power, some schools as well may not reopen tomorrow. >>> tropical storm warnings are up along the massachusetts coast. boat owners spent yesterday pulling their vessels onshore in anticipation of a swipe from hermine. coast guard crews headed out to monitor the waters offshore. the seas picked up after midnight because they want to be in position in case any rescues are needed. keep 6abc.com/weather at your finger tips, you're a few clicks away from hourly forecast and updates on facebook and twitter is a good way to stay connected. >>> we're following breaking news from the philadelphia

he saw america as a shining city on a hill. donald trump sees us as a crime scene. not offering any real policies or plants, here's just offering sedition and fear. that if he scares enough people he might scare up enough votes to win this election. mean, look, i believe americans are not a fearful people. we do not look for being rolled. our power comes from those ideals we first put a place right here in philadelphia. that all of us are created equal, that we the people can form a more perfect union. we believe in democracy. that is what we believe in. and we do not believe that one person is going to do it for us. it is what we can do together. achieved by us. and yes, it is hard and sometimes frustrating to persuade people and work with people and form coalitions. workhat is the necessary of self-government and that is what hillary clinton understands. because she has been through it. she knows that it is a democracy. in a big diverse country like this one, it does not work if we just demonize each other and call each other names. she knows that love trumps eigh

(nat-piano, then singing) "city of stars, are you shining just for me?" ryan gosling learned to play jazz piano for the musical "la la land," which is receiving tremendous praise at telluride... including from one of gosling's press conference at the festival to heap praise on "la la land," calling it "brand new" and "wonderful," and fervently hoping audiences embrace it. (singing) "hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over..." it's far from over for crowded house. 30 years after the band formed in melbourne, it's being inducted into the australia recording industry association's hall of fame. the veteran rock-folk musicians will hav november 23rd in sydney: they're this year's only honorees. in hollywood, i'm david daniel. ((kirsten joyce)) >>> as people across southeast louisiana recover from historic flooding, many in the area are doing what they can to help those impacted.... especially for our four-legged companions. a special adoption day was held at jefferson parish to make way for animals coming in from flood-impacted areas. the goal is to keep anim

the sun is going to shine on the mile high city this morning. stadium with the lights still on. they're likely still there potentially cleaning things up after last night's win. some of the fog east in burlington out of here by mid- morning. lunch. that's what our futurecast looks like at 12:00. you'll notice a few clouds near sterling, akron, fort collins. we've got a few more clouds in the sky today and potentially even one or two isolated storms or showers up to the northeast. very little activity for us here in denver today. by 9:00 saturday morning, clear skies, chilly early tomorrow. we're going to see temperatures in the upper 40s to near 50 early tomorrow. due to today's colddfront, our temperatures are only mid- to upper 70s. so yesterday we were talking highs near 90. today we're at 77 by 3:00. if you've got friday night plans you'll want a light jacket with you tonight. by 7:00, we're at 66. it will be a little bit chillier. this was perfect timing as far as last night's game. it was great weather, t-shirt weather at the stadium. mid- to upper 60s for the foothills to

directions and there's not been either would have been these candidates who have been able to give a city shiningn a hill speech like ronald reagan or i have a dream like dr. king because they are so determined to separate the country. and that is i think a terrible precipitation for the future. >> it is going to be like that as long as there is identity-based partisanship. the different groups they rind with these parties but if you think about even your social media networks like the idea that you are seeing only the news about the stuff you care about delivered the your phone every day. i think silos of where we live and the silos of the information we're taking in is actually exacerbating the problem. >> there are so many different reasons that we've ended up at this plasmts some we can control. some we can't control. but i think -- in addition to the political realignment that's happening, i think that the most pressing issue is whoever wins, the white house in november, there's going to be a huge chunk of americans who are going to feel unrepresented and not heard. and how do you govern? >>

(nat-piano, then singing) "city of stars, are you shining just for me?" ryan gosling learned to play jazz piano for the musical "la la land," which is receiving tremendous praise at telluride... including from one of gosling's potential rivals for best actor. tom hanks interrupted his own "sully" press conference at the festival to heap praise on "la la land," calling it "brand new" and fervently hoping audiences embrace it. (singing) "hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over... it's far from over for crowded house. 30 years after the band formed in melbourne, it's being inducted into the australia recording industry association's hall of fame. the veteran rock-folk musicians will have the spotlight all to themselves at the ceremony, november 23rd in sydney: they're this year's only honorees. in hollywood, i'm david daniel.>> "don't breathe" leaves moviegoers breathless for the second week in a row. "i got our ticket out of here... just because he's blind don't mean he's a saint bro." the low-budget thriller cost just 10-million dollars to make and has alr

going in different directions and there is not been either candidate whose been able to give a city shining on a hill speech like ronald reagan or i have a dream like dr. ken because they are so determined to separate the country and that is, i think, a terrible prescription for the future. >> it's going to be like that as long as there is identity based partisanship. i mean, i think we've always social media networks, like the idea you see only the news about the stuff you care about delivered to your phone every day, i think the silos of where we live and the silos of the information we're taking in is actually exacerbating the problem. >> there are so many different reasons that we've ended up at this place. some that we can control, some we can't control but i think in addition to the political realignment that's happening, i think that the most pressing issue is whoever wins the white house in novbe going to be a huge chunk of americans who are going to feel unrepresented and not heard. >> and angry about it. >> and angry about it. >> look at the reaction -- >> very high unfavorables.

of the things for this panel is that we can be forward thinking and we can think about what a shining city on the hill for democrats and republicans could look like. jillian: james? james: i thought i was going to be the one taking a contrary view here because most of the pundits who analyze the election are arguing about whether hillary clinton is going to win n a lyndon johnson landside or saddam hussein size landslide. so i guess i assumed everyone would be the same view. i agree with ted, i don't -- i reject the premise that the election has been decided. august is awfully early to declare a winner. that said i do acknowledge that hillary clinton is the favorite based on current poll numbers and events so far. but to put that in perspective, you go to a website called election betting odds dot-com, you'll find probabilities based on bets people are making in betting markets. these are people risking their money on the outcome of the election. it's an irish betting market because there is no state in the united states that allows betting on political events. these things aren't always r