-- what is his strategy, is it going to work by bringing up the '90s and bill clinton's indiscretions? >> it works to galvanize the base. i was at the debate last night, i was in the hall, sitting next to one of trump's supporters. every time the subject came up about the defections from the republican party, well, those are the elite. they are not any good anyway. you have to keep in mine trump's fundamental supporters basically want to burn the house down. they're furious at washington, they're furious at the establishment, politicians on both sides, when you want to burn the house down, you hire the arsonist, the arsonist is playing with live fire, and that's what we heard. does it add to the base? probably not as larry said. that snapshot, that poll, that's a big gap. what it does after the debate is going to be very interesting to see. but there's something else i want to point out. that is that he -- donald trump rails at the media, the media in all its forms are not going away, they're riveted by this, they're going to continue to magnify his words, actions, inconsistencies and attacks, he will live by