. >> host: gerald horne teaching at city college of new york, uc santa barbara, university of zimbabwe, chapel hill, university of hong kong and a professor of history since 2003 at the university of houston. after he graduated from princeton went on to get his law degree from uc-berkeley uc-berkeley, master's from colombia and ph.d. from columbia as well. we have talked for one hour. it is your turn. if you cannot get through on the phones try asocial media we will filter through those as well. washington d.c. you are the first call. >> caller: how are you? i would like to ask can you explain the role of haiti and the founding of the united states? >> guest: why is that of interest to you? spee14 because they don't talk about the significance of the haitian revolution with african-americans and the united states and the founding of the united states. that question needs to be addressed. >> guest: always a pleasure. i am always happy to talk about haiti that is in my book "confronting black jacobins" the haitian revolution 1791 that rare is the defense the successful revolt of the slav

so, to that extent, that reeks of racism. >> host: next call for gerald horne is al in carthage, northead, al. >> caller: professor horne, i've got an idea on a book and love to talk more about white-- black power in appalachia. and there's a name for your book, to carry on from your book of modern history of the naacp, say from when julian bond, my brother became president up till today, kind of through the period of the last six years and attempts by my brother dr. barber here in north carolina, johnson in mississippi. my brother in texas and other state movements in the old confederacy and how that has tied to bring the naacp into the modern era. >> guest: well, that's a worthwhile project. and i would encourage anyone who embarks on that project to pay careful attention how the naacp dealt with foreign policy. faegs, -- for example, in a book talking with the war, as i've noted there's been a kind of sir coup couple-- circumspe circumspection. i think the caller's project is worthwhile and i encourage him to pursue it. >> host: this is a facebook comment from johanna cane. dr. horn

. >> host: gerald horne, if you were to write a general history book for school kids today, what wouldbe the first line in the book? >> guest: i'm not sure what the first line would be, but i'm giving a talk in a few days -- leading black history in over a century ago. and not talk, taking off from an important seminar that was held in washington d.c. in may 2016 on the run up when was first initiated to the opening of the national african american museum here in washington with the reams of publicity for understandable reasons. at the seminar in washington in may, one leading historian asked if we need to interpret the framework of the united states of america. one historian said is from slavery to freedom popularized by john franklin, still in the framework for brak american history. from plantation to get her. another historian that actually what we need is a new interpretive framework for the usb of what i'm going to say in richmond in a few days as an answer to that question is yes. and it should be from settler colonialism to u.s. imperialism. as i tell the audience in richmond,

to volume biography is very good. >> host: professor gerald horne did the naacp start off as a radicalorganization? >> guest: if you consider that their founding 1909 involved a collaborationcoll between black americans "w.e.b. du bois" and many socialist. because he was a socialistli at the time. but this was not necessarily unusual tries to suggest that jim crow was some popular cause. and then to suffer under thefe slings and arrows. but the naacp that i said in my book that they would purge "w.e.b. du bois" serving through 34 then had a falling out where he pends the "black reconstruction"constc that is the revisionist takevi on the civil war era that would remind us all that the job of a historian to revive is history to tell the difference story of the interpretation. >> but "w.e.b. du bois" from those halcyon days of the anti-fascist era to the days when the soviet union and united states from the same side. the director for relations with the red scare under way. and is not interested to support truman thinking of those leaders of the naacp. and also was a leader for wallace an

applause] [inaudible conversations] >> this weekend on booktv we're live with author and historian gerald horne. he sits down with us on "in depth" to discuss all of his books and to answer your questions. you can call, tweet us @booktv, e-mail us, booktv@c-span.org, and post on our facebook wall. other programs to watch for this weekend, on afterwards "face the nation's" john dickerson remembers mel rabble presidential campaign moments, and charles murray presents his plan to replace the welfare system with a universal basic income. also this weekend national book award finalists cathy o'neal and heather ann thompson discuss their respective books on big data and the attica prison uprising. and be booktv visits penn low, colorado, to talk with local authors and visit the city's literary sites. that's just a few of the programs you'll see on booktv this weekend. for a complete television schedule, booktv.org. booktv, 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors. television for serious readers. >> i think the trend has been clearly in the wrong direction on both sides. the congress has not been assu

now book tv is live with author and historian gerald horn. he's the author of several books on race and history including his most recent paul robison, the artist as revolutionary. for the next three hours, gerald ford will be answering your questions. >>

and on sunday at noon eastern we're live with author and historian gerald horne who's written over 30 books, including "the counter revolution of 1776, slave resistance and the origins of the united states of america." "race to revolution, the united states and cuba during slavery and jim crow." "confronting blackjack bins, the u.s., the haitian revolution and the or gins of the dominican republic." and his latest book titled "paul robeson, the artist as revolutionary." so when japan bombed pearl harbor, in place in black america was this infrastructure of pro tokyo support that paul robeson began to chip away at that. is to say paul robeson was able to convince many black americans that their destiny and fate should rest with solidarity with washington. >> join the conversation with your phone calls, e-mail, foob comments and tweets. for our complete schedule, go to booktv.org. >>> the next president making appointments to the supreme court of the united states will be president donald trump. >> with hillary clinton in the white house, the rest of the world will never forget why they

conservative principles for his recent biography of russell kirk and on sunday we are with live with gerald horne and that's a look at the time at the awe their proms booktv is covering this weekend. many events are open to the pockment look for them to air in fear future on booktv on c-span2. >> historically, diarrhea was -- there's a -- dr. william ago her had a great quote. father of modern medicine. he was the one who said dysentery has been more featal fatal to soldiers that powder or shot. in the mexican-american war, most soldiers died from dysentery. and you would have field camps and you have the mess tent where you're preparing food, no refrigeration, and an open pit latrine and flies unbelievable number of flies attracted by if any bodies were around so the flies are lanning in the latrine material and then buzzing over to the beans, which are sitting there so the flies are on the can which means they land on the crap and then have path generals on their feet and then inoculates the identified which sits there two hours and then the whole cam gets dysentery, yeley fever, -- yellow feve

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