joining us now with reaction, david clark, and geraldo riviera. geraldo, let's start with you.hard critic. anything trump you've been annoying lately. >> think that is inaccurate. my overview is that it was a pleasure watching two decent, patriotic god-fearing americans go at it. both are the fathers of serving united states marines and thinking how different this campaign would be if these were the two figures at the top of both respective tickets. ratings would be lower but you'd have a more sensible and more reasoned debate over real issues. >> what is so reasonable about tim kaine tonight? he wouldn't should up. >> i think in the beginning of the debate he was annoying so i give pence the slight advantage over who won, quote unquote, the debate. pence did something dump failed to do. governor pence did not rise the debate that kaine presented. i think he did an excellent job and kaine made his points as well, i think governor pence won the debate. >> sheriff? what is your take? >> well, senator tim kaine came off as a raging lunatic. he needs to layoff the caffeine and go t

. >> joining us now with reaction is geraldo riviera. steve, i'll start with you. the dinner has been used to break from campaigns maybe to reset the way their campaigns have been trending. this election has been anything but traditional and tonight was no different. both candidates took shots at each other. >> trump went first. great jokes and then, suddenly, it changed and went. you can feel a change in the room. when he started calling her corrupt, and then, there was no joke, it was just going at her with vicious attacks, and then, she stood up i thought is she going to respond and do the normal self deprecating stuff? then, she launched into her speech. it was the same. a few jokes, good jokes but then really aggressive attacks on trump. just shows how completely they despise each other and reflects the feel of this election campaign. >> geraldo, politics is a blood sport. >> yes. >> this was a little bloody for -- if you've been to the alfred smith dinner before? >> several times. >> president obama? hilarious, george bush, hilarious. these two took it up a n

fox news senior correspondent, geraldo riviera. >> said, he said what is up with you. >> you're undecidedope on immigration issue that he would lighten up. >> yes. yes. >> he did. he did. then, he doesn't. and then, i'm not sure. and he's going to build a wall. what is wrong with that? >> get rid of ms13. >> and supporters, catch and release, stop sanctuary cities. he stopped to talk about deportation police a long time ago. >> it could have been the real thing. >> do you want to go down the road of immigration? or do you want to talk about -- >> i want to know open, hemispheric, 1600 people coming here and taking your job? >> you can still -- >> the "new york times," right? >> right. >> hillary wants to be the third term for obama. she didn't have criticism of anything obama has done economically. nothing about taxes. >> do you agree, larry? >> she wants everything he wants to do. >> i come here and have something i can agree with you about. and it is the fact that there was state department officials who did request of the fbi agents the classification be changed from secret to -- >> wh