havenow, every time you technology, we as a society should worry about it. ai, being one. greater the role technology plays in society, i think more you have to use it to service the people at the bottom. talk about the value of making mistakes. you ever worry about overusing -- >> everything is a matter of gradation. society, the world depends too much on us. a hundred people, a thousand people, 100,000 people. notoes not mean you should encourage risk. it should encourage its mammoth lose 5% orfail and 10% of your assets, your succeef these 60, you double your market capitalization. i think this is key to innovation because risk is key to innovation. if you discourage failure or don't reward intelligence failure, then you are not allowing yourself succeed in the long run. emily: thank you so much joining us today. it has been great to have you. vinod: it has been fun to be here. ♪ terre: we asked some of the best minds in the world from business, government, the arts, academia, what are the most urgent problems facing humanity, and how do we solve them? the result is "bi