in a discussion with jamie rubin, the biggest flip-flop, that's called the tpp. hillary clinton was in favor 45 times now is somehow against it. >> i want to get your, give you an opportunity, boris, to respond to what we just heard from jamie rubin, but governor pence he took a different position from trump on the issue of vladimir putin and russia. what jamie said, but let me play the clip. >> the small and bullying leader of russia is now dictating terms to the united states, to the point where all of the united states of america, the -- the great effort nation on earth, just withdrawals from talks about a cease-fire while vladimir putin puts a missile defense system in syria, while he marshals the forces and begins -- look, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered american leadership. >> certainly sounded different than what we've heard from donald trump over these many months. pence, denied, for example, trump praised putin, even though trump has repeatedly called him a strong leader. is there some daylight here based on everythin