i mean, can the vp debate ultimately change minds or sway voters, jehmu?not the only chance, and i think we all have something to say about that if we can keep focusing on the issues that are most important here. but, i'm sorry, on kevin's point about the first 30 minutes, it's like these trump surrogates are out there saying, well, he did great in the first 30 days of his presidency, and the rest of the four years it didn't matter that he completely messed up. it's not about what happens in a small period of time, and, yes, i do think that there will be a much more substantive conversation on that stage with the two vp candidates because simply for this fact, donald trump will not be on that stage, and he will not be interjecting rosie o'donnell and other -- >> jehmu, i'm sorry to do this to you. i apologize. i'm running out of time. i want to let everyone know we lost kevin sheridan's shot. not intentional. it just happened. >> we'll be back in three hours, and four hours, 6:00 p.m. on the fox news channel. >> thank you very much. >> see you in a little