. >> just quickly, peter, you know, jason leopold, vice news, to his credit he had the main case that resulted in the 55,000 and may result in more e-mails coming out before the election now. >> yes. >> jason participated in a previous judicial watch panel which is also available online. you know, he made the point he -- hillary clinton was an important person. and he was just doing what he felt all reporters do. >> right. >> well, this is an important person that's probably going to run for higher office and presidency, so give me her e-mails. he didn't know what he was getting into. he thought he was just doing regular reporting work and, indeed, he was, but he was the only reporter and the nurse -- the first to go to court about records and got them as a result. it just shows you how little effort it takes in the end -- >> and apropos of what jerry has saw said about the mainstream media, how many foia requests have been filed by the new york times and "the washington post"? how many? nothing. talk about awol. you know, bob woodward talks about we have 27 reporters working on donal