>> commissioners, ray hart, san francisco open government. let's talk about what is always missing in this report. anything to do with the sunshine ordinance. despite the fact that we have heard about this commission's authority under law. after all, what could you say. we have never and will never do anything to enforce open government laws. we don't give a damn what the citizens of san francisco passed by this two-thirds majority. we won't enforce it. not only that, we won't do anything in our power to provide any level of transparency from achieving their goal. adding insult to injury, we won't disparage that subject. you can para phrase kelly in pogo. you can sit there and say i'm tedious. what is the real expectation. if you find something and believe it and go a away and not bother anymore. what you resist persists. if you won't respond, then you provoke a reaction. they do things which discourage it. look at this room. who pays attention to these meetings. who thinks it's worth the effort? i few of us. some will get on your good side.

ray hart has a point. you should -- listen to him without dismissing it and without boosting your own egos. democracy and good government in this building are suffering. they are suffering. professor keane, you were talking about the legendary kopp coming back to city hall. i don't know what is so legendary and a lot of people don't. i don't want a lecture about who you think is a legend. i want a stronger sunshine ordinance task force. i want better enforcement of sunshine laws, i want orders of determination carried out. i want this panel handling complaints sooner. i want the ethics commission investigators investigating complaints and closing them sooner. there is a lot of good government that needs to be done. and i don't hear you talking about it. but you are going on and on about some unwritten rules regarding decorum for these meetings. let us see these written rules you are talking about. >> thank you. >> any other public comment? public speaker: good evening, commissioners. i'm charles marsel for