the next author will be talking about her book and it's national book award finalist, arly russell hopeshield and she looks at the political state of the right. we'll being back from the southern festival in a few minutes. >> so the phrase all lives matter is that in many ways some assumption that many of us begin with. the point of saying black lives matter is to really highlight the extent to which black lives have not mattered in the united states. and most recently, concerning the issue with police abuse and violence. and i think the reluctance to embrace that really shows the depth of the lack of understanding about what the condition of african-americans in this country actually is. and to some extent, i think we can understand it. we live in a deeply segregated country where white people have no idea what black people's lives are like in this country. and to-- it's not the samenessly for african-americans who see the lives of white people on television all the time. but that does speak to an additional problem, which is that there's more general issue with the absence of seeing poor wh