and one day in 2003, mohammed dere's militia grabbed suleiman abdullah salim out of his car and beatand picked him up as few hours later and turned them over to the cia -- which eventually he was thrown into a secret prison in afghanistan where he was tortured. is reallye he endured hard to hear from him. to me, that was the hardest part of doing this was actually to hear the person that the cia had tortured describe the torture that they had endured. you know, many of us have read innocents torture torture report or the newspapers, but to actually hear and sit with someone who had to endure this is a very difficult process. amy: jim risen, we want to turn to suleiman abdullah salim in his own words speaking to the aclu about the long-term impacts of the t torture he endured. amy: i am in so much pain. i vomited. why are you doing g this to me? tell us what happened to su leiman. >> he was picked up in somalia up. the cia arranged to fly him to kenya where he was questioned by the kenyans. the kenyans then turned him back to the cia in somalia, then he was flown to djibouti. from dji