that's just an example of brian regan, why brian regan became to be known as mr. 80%. they would see that he was brilliant 80% of the way and then suddenly he would make a left turn to stupidity. [laughter] >> so once they knew that he was their guy, they still needed to collect evidence that he was doing something because they didn't know what he had stolen even at that point. they were simply starting to see that he had done all of these searches. so they ultimately they brought him back to the nro as a contractor, which was a risky move and they rigged up cameras in cube -- cubicel when he was about to leave the country to market this information to the embassies overseas, that's when they finally caught him. >> did the fact that he had obtained them and the fact that they had sort of -- that they had been accessed and in longer in the confines, did that jeopardize the sources and methods to gather the information, were they able to preserve those, do you know? >> i guess you're asking if there was a risk outstanding even though he hadn't been able to sell the infor

so, starting in 1997, because brian regan was facing hardships and his financial life, he was under severe credit card debt. the. he was frustrated because of the lack of respect because he was a fairly distant to make a decent worker. just like it happened in childhood he kept getting ridiculed by some of his colleagues said he came up with a plan he was going to steal the american secrets to market them overseas to hostile governments. so he went through a process of collecting the secrets which actually collecting them by it self wasn't that hard and that is something we can talk about later about the vulnerability of the secrets that he had access to. he succeeded in stealing the secrets and hiding them in the two state parks outside of dc and in pocahontas state park and he came up with this ingenious method of encrypting the geo-coordinates of all of the locations and so what he had in the end of his theft were sheets filled with letters and numbers that wouldn't mean anything to anybody else but were essentially the keys to the kingdom. >> if you haven't already bought the book in t

up next, they talk about brian regan, a cia analyst who, in 2000, was caught trying to sell military and intelligence secrets to libya. he used his dyslexia to create a complicated code that was difficult for the fbi to decipher. >> thank you all so much for coming out. i think what we will do is talk for the first 20 or 25 minutes and then i will be available for questions pertaining to the book :