he was carl rainy's boss. carl rainy, he w w a the one that was murdered. that's right. charles lopez was a stable boy. well mason knew lopez better than any of us. and he figured the indian canbe scared what he knew about the killing. none of us thought, it would get out of hand. not one of us thought that. well what made you think that this charles lopez knew something about the murder? well, he was out there, close t. claimed he was just looking for straw horse's. but he didn't have any gun. mostly it was, it was the way he acted, when i questioned him. what made you go along with mason's idea? i had to do something. feeling was running high about carls' murder. it's funny how different things seemed when you look back at it. well... i'm in no position now to charge anybody with murder. but ah, those four men, that were with you are gonna t know. well, even so, i still gotta get their statements. you know, we better get over there. now russ, everything is going to be alright. what it will be mister? i'm lookininfor tod collins. am him? my name is hoby gilman. texas ra