dr. jason johnson today. >> mark: yes. we haven't spoken to him since just before the whirlwind election. >> romona: jason, hello. >> morning. good afternoon. >> mark: i'm sure it feels that way. you first about the electoral college process. it's actually the electors that cast the votes that legally elect the president. >> mark: there are petitions floating around. ignore the state vote. cast your ballot for clinton. this is sort of shades of 2000. it comes down to history, right? >> right, right. it would be a violation of the rules and you only have a certain number of states where that's even allowed. generally speaking an eor their state voted in general. now, this has brought attention back to the core issue of the electoral college and the popular vote. i have always believed and i've done studies of this, i think the electoral college to have real value. if you didn't have them have a point system, they would never travel to different states. they would stick around and i think when you have an electoral college v