. >> please be noted that director heinicke is can't join us today. announcement of sound producing devices. >> [gavel] ladies and gentlemen, please, please. >> cell phones set on vibrate and call interference and the board ask they're off. item 4 is approval of the minutes. >> is there a motion and a second. >> second. >> okay. is there public comment. i guess there s good afternoon. >> good afternoon. i am the executive director of library users association. i noticed that your minutes have in some cases very extensive or relatively extensive descriptions of what members of the public have said, and in other instances only indicate whether somebody spoke in favor or opposed to an item on the agenda. since it's my understanding that the sunshine ordinance requires you to summarize what people have said from the public as well as to indicate whether they favor or oppose i am concerned that you're not following adequately the sunshine ordinance and i would like to know why there is that differential in the minutes that i am seeing? >> thank you. >> and

. >> please be noted that director heinicke is can't join us today. announcement of sound producing devices. >> [gavel] ladies and gentlemen, please, please. >> cell phones set on vibrate and call interference and the board ask they're off. item 4 is approval of the minutes. >> is there a motion and a second. >> second. >> okay. is there public comment. i guess there s good afternoon. >> good afternoon. i am the executive director of library users association. i noticed that your minutes have in some cases very extensive or relatively extensive descriptions of what members of the public have said, and in other instances only indicate whether somebody spoke in favor or opposed to an item on the agenda. since it's my understanding that the sunshine ordinance requires you to summarize what people have said from the public as well as to indicate whether they favor or oppose i am concerned that you're not following adequately the sunshine ordinance and i would like to know why there is that differential in the minutes that i am seeing? >> thank you. >> and

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question.ust a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at 2

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at

borden will be with us shortly as well director heinicke nolan, present. ramos, present. please be advised roger rubke will be absent from today's meeting but you do have a quorum to proceed with business at hand. item 3 announcement of probation sound producing devices during the meeting. item 4, approval of the minutes of the october 18 regular meeting >> any public comment boomer? >> know mister chairman >> moved and seconded. all those in favor say, aye so ordered. >> item 5 communications. german nolan directors none. item 6 introduction of new or unfinished business by board members >> 52 things to bring up with from the headlines. the first is if we could perhaps get clarification or update on the service animal policy. i know that was a new story that was kind of waiting around and i think that it's one of those things there's a lot of misinformation out there. you hear a lot of things dogs are okay if they paid up there. service animals always okay maybe we could clarify that not just for our benefit for the public's benefit. also for the police will actually hav

director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question.-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at 22nd. it acro

. >> please be noted that director heinicke is can't join us today. announcement of sound producing devices. >> [gavel] ladies and gentlemen, please, please. >> cell phones set on vibrate and call interference and the board ask they're off. item 4 is approval of the minutes. >> is there a motion and a second. >> second. >> okay. is there public comment. i guess there s good afternoon. >> good afternoon. i am the executive director of library users association. i noticed that your minutes have in some cases very extensive or relatively extensive descriptions of what members of the public have said, and in other instances only indicate whether somebody spoke in favor or opposed to an item on the agenda. since it's my understanding that the sunshine ordinance requires you to summarize what people have said from the public as well as to indicate whether they favor or oppose i am concerned that you're not following adequately the sunshine ordinance and i would like to know why there is that differential in the minutes that i am seeing? >> thank you. >> and

borden will be with us shortly as well director heinicke nolan, present. ramos, present.ised roger rubke will be absent from today's meeting but you do have a quorum to proceed with business at hand. item 3 announcement of probation sound producing devices during the meeting.