recount process that gets underway in with a wis this week, election commissioners rejecting jil jill stein's question for a recount. they have to finish by december 13 under federal law. in pennsylvania jill stein filed a lawsuit asking a judge for state wide recount, despite missing a number of deadlines, that 21st. jill stein unable to get required 3 voters from each of state more than 9,voting pre-- 9,000 pricincts. joining me now, a member of the rnc rules committee, former senior advisor to newt gingrich and his presidential campaign in 2012, randy evans. good to have you here. and former reagan white house political director, he is just getting started, ed rollins. >> thank you. lou: let's start randy with these recounts. donald trump said they will not amount to anything, your judgment? >> they are not, i was there in the bush vs gore where we felt with a real,. and that was much different. here, the electoral college, ballots will be cast, when congress convenes on january 6 they will open ballots and count them, donald trump will be well north of 270 that will be it. that is elabora