marcus delartino from strategic, a guy that reads the tea leaves and knows his stuff. good to see you. what did you think election night? >> my job was on the ground just like everybody else. it was absolutely the most fascinating campaign season from we, of course, did a side bet in the office. you can't help yourself. >> i had one going too. >> there was -- when you go through the map, it was difficult to find the path. >> that's what i thought. and that's why i did not think he could pull it off. i felt, looking at the electoral map, it was just too hard. it was like tiptoeing through a mine field. one trip-up, and he's gone. north carolina doesn't go his way, and it starts to really get have probably -- now even florida maybe wouldn't have killed him. the electoral vote now is strong. let's see, he's at 306 to 232. he loses the popular vote, though. >> most likely. i'm not counting out -- remember there's a lot of other ballots in arizona and throughout the country. we'll see how that sort of possib possible, and we're having the debate once again with the electora