. >> host: i was fascinated as a child, thisthing with marshall mcluhan was that when you watch tv, you realize there's much more effort to the advertisement than there is in the programs and as a child, i had a particularly , for somereason that that and , that's it, which was popular at the time, threes company, i guess that was a little more of an adolescent thing. >> host: after school, right. >> whatever it was, i would watch it. and it was interesting because today, we are talking about revolt. i would do anything i could to avoid advertising. but when i was a kid and a lot of audiences have the same feeling, we sit through the advertisements and that was the way it was. in the 1950s, during my research people would talk about how they watched television and they would turn off all the lights, not everybody but many people, turn off the lights and patiently sit there, all the ads and consume it absolutely. this was before remote control. every day, if there's an ad i turn it off. so it was a difference that i think has led to our current lifestyle. >> host: so you remember the jin