on 17 march mister blair was advised by the chairman of the joint intelligence committee, saddam had weapons of mass destruction and means to deploy them and the means to produce. if you convert that into advice that wasn't a threat you could just about defend it. >> are you defending it? >> no. >> you are saying there was no imminent threat. it could come back. you are saying there was no threat and tony blair was wrong to describe this threat effectively. >> choosing words as carefully as i can, the description to the house in that speech, which speech was made in advocates terms, the best possible inflection on the description that he used. it doesn't take hindsight to demonstrate two propositions. one in terms of the community not only in the united kingdom, but strongly of the belief, they brought intelligence to support it. they had weapons of mass destruction, what wasn't i thinking there? was evidence that he intended to deploy them against the united kingdom. otherwise as a last resort of the invasion. >> as far as i can tell, it was not reasonable for tony blair to suppose