there's one piece of video that you got from, it was an old rona barrett celebrity interview from the 1980s which had never aired, you got parts that had never aired, and he was remarkably similar in the way he talked about political issues, but he was also very frank about the sort of dynamic about what was making him decide to run or not to run. was that -- >> it's interesting, and maybe it was because it was so early in donald trump's political career, but rona barrett really got probably the best information out of donald trump than any interview that i had seen, us notwithstanding. [laughter] and you see, you see him going through -- he -- rona barrett asked him, do you want to be president? he said, no, i love building, i'm an around the u.s., i love building -- artist, i love building my buildings, and over it really affects him. he starts to take to this idea that, huh, maybe one day i could be president. particularly because people continuously ask him whether or not he wants to be the president of the united states. >> and he shows up in polls through the decades again and a

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