the recommendation will be made to central office to the classification bureau, and my recommendationt we send you to level one. >> all right. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i appreciate it. >> all right. >> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> whew. i click my heels together three times, and i'm on my way. this is like a bump in the road for me. that's perfect. i'm going home. yes. >> you're going home? >> some people, it's like hereditary. they stay here. >> right here, sir. >> lewis, myself, the deputy warden, the captain, needs to talk to you in the office, so come on down. >> felix lewis, when he first got here, we had given him a urine test and he came up positive for thc. basically came to me, told me that he would participate in substance abuse if i suspended the sanctions on that report. so i gave him a break. i suspended the sanctions for 180 days of clear conduct. it's my understanding now that he picked up a report on the weekend for tattooing. >> that's correct. >> at this point i want us to impose the sanctions from the misconduct report. i'm -- i want to see the

the bureau of prisons has somebody who's an original classification authority. you know, mr. leonard, how did it get to be that point? is that really necessary in those instances? >> it's an example perhaps of when i was in my position at isu, one of the things i had to do was to deal with requests for agencies to get original classification authority. and quite frankly, one of the issues that i had to contend with is it was one of convenience more than anything else. and there were a number of instances where there were agencies or even small activities looking for original classification authority that had to push back because they were looking to really accomplish something that probably can have and should have been accomplished through legislation if there was really a legitimate reason to withhold information from public disclosure. >> how do you analyze because some of this stuff it's just the agencies are embarrassed. they don't want to do it. it's clearly not credible. but sometimes when you're trying to get information from foia or congress, you are diverting the ex

agencies, the antitrust division at the department of justice, the bureau of prisons have somebody who is in an original classification authority. mr. leonard, how did he get to that point was is that necessary? >> it's an example perhaps, when i was in my position at isoo one of the things i did he was do with requests for agencies to get original classification authority. quite frankly one of the issues i had to contend with it was one of convenience, more than anything else. there were a number of instances where there were agencies or even small activities looking for a racial classification authority that had to push back because they were looking to accomplish something that could have and should have been a call push through legislation. there really was illegitimate reason to withhold information. >> how do you analyze, because some of this stuff, it's just the agencies are embarrassed, they don't want to do and it is clearly, it's just not credible. but sometimes when you're trying to get information for you or congress, you are diverting the executive from their core mission, actually did do. we are the firs

the bureau of prisons has somebody who's an original classification authority. you know, mr. leonard, how did it get to be that point? is that really necessary in those instances? >> it's an example perhaps of when i was in my position at isu, one of the things i had to do was to deal with requests for agencies to get original classification authority. and quite frankly, one of the issues that i had to contend with is it was one of convenience more than anything else. and there were a number of instances where there were agencies or even small activities looking for original classification authority that had to push back because they were looking to really accomplish something that probably can have and should have been accomplished through legislation if there was really a legitimate reason to withhold information from public disclosure. >> how do you analyze because some of this stuff it's just the agencies are embarrassed. they don't want to do it. it's clearly not credible. but sometimes when you're trying to get information from foia or congress, you are diverting the ex

when two major agencies looking at classification of different views about the nature of the document, sources and what it should be. >> the problem for the federal bureau of investigation, leans one way on the question. the real answer is is it classified or unclassified? that is the reality of the classification system. i showed documents that are classified and unclassified simultaneously. different agencies, the same reviewer came to a different -- there was a certain quality, i was a staffer and we were careful about classified materials. executive branch employees, i got one agent -- give it to your grandmother. it is classified. and the other one, don't you dare, it is classified. trying to be diligent. what is it? am i exposing myself by leaving it on my desk. >> executive order on classification includes provisions for resolving disputes about implementation of the order is ultimately those disputes can be directed to the attorney general. >> i was in the private sector, the head of all this. we went around checking to make sure nobody was sloppy. it is not going to the attorney general. i saw the document on the desk. the state department adju