dr. zuhdi jasser and foundation for the defense of democracies president clifford may. dr. jasser, start with you, the business about germany, at first i was aghast i heard about how the police had him on the radar and they were following him, and he had a criminal record. i thought what was wrong with the police? with the million immigrants into germany, i'm thinking, no, i don't care how good the german police are or are not there, is no way they could follow how many people or somebody they should be keeping tabs on? >> tom, there is something we could learn from every one of these, this one is a lone wolf, not get lost in a million people. he came in not only in the last trek in italy which doesn't make sense, in the last five years, came in through tunisia, was in prison in italy for four years, italy said we don't want you. they deported him to where? we don't know. we leaves the country, makes his way up to germany, has interactions with the law four times. a knife on a bus, a drug arrest, was actually under surveillance because his roommate was related to isis and ar

dr. zuhdi jasser president of the american islamic forum for democracy. dr. r for a second. let's go back to the incident in new york, the incident at the university of michigan. why are people making up these outrageous situations? are they trying to appeal to liberals who assume that this is going to happen? are they trying to jump the bandwagon and say you know it happened to me and why are they doing it? >> well, juan, i mean, this is war. we are in a cultural war and basically their entire identity islamists is based on their identity asç muslims. they don't want to lead reform. they don't recognize we have a problem. they want to be the victim. it's part of the product of radicalization from grievance mongering groups and the left that doesn't want to look at muslim and islam as an idea but rather as identity or race or racialization of islam. this is defined as terrorism. terrorism militarily, operationally like isis kills innocent people. culturally, it's any means necessary. you can lie, you can do whatever you want. to separate muslims out and say w

dr. jasser terrific thank you. >> any time. liz: we have former senator and homeland security committee member scott brown joining me now by satellite. what do you make of today's attacks, and planned attacks? >> their is an attack on all good people of goodwill who want freedom and democracy and ability to live their lives, people who want to changing our ways life. these radical islamic terrorists are trying to change our way of life, it is going to take an efforts by all those country, people, citizens who care as i do about freedom, and democracy and the ability to live your life to its fullest. that means if we have to mar to marry up with south koreans, and russians and germans, to get it done then so be it. liz: do you think that u.s. voters are waking up to the threat of these attacks. >> since we had in california, we see what happened ought our collecting in -- at our colleges and universities that we're more aware. it is important that we have the ability to have our second amendment ride rights to defend ourselveses

dr. zuhdi jasser. this whole story continues to get even worse as we find out that amiri -- he went through amsterdam, netherlands into leone, france before ending up in italy where he was caught. >> how many of these do they need from "charlie hebdo" in paris to belgium. that attack was the same cell in 2015 that then committed an attack four months later and they still didn't get their border situation fixed. why? because they are losing their national identity. this man had a circle of influence. there is an imam network that had 20 jihadists that have are now we are know being and this guy was in that group but was stopped monitoring in september while his roommate continued and the german authorities knew about him. hopefully we don't need another one for them to wake up to what they need to fix. >> there was criticism before. what's your take on the professionalism of the security forces or police department when this guy was the most wanted man in europe. they knew he would be anywhere in europe

dr. zudi jasser. good to have you here. >> thank you for having me. >> before we get to the new terror warning in the u.s. for the holidays, i want you reaction to the news that the berlin terror suspect shot dead in milan was part of a cell based in tunisia and actively involved in trying to recruit his nephew and send him money so he could join him in germany. >> it's again not surprising and sadly, in a post mortem, we always describe these as cells when, in fact, premortem it could have been done. he was a known wolf, nopt an unknown entity. he was in an italian prison for four years, odds are radicalized. italy boots him out, deports him to nowhere, no specific place. he sought asylum from tunisia which is already bizarre. they had a parliament democracy that was evolving. then he goes to germany. in the last year four interactions with the law in germany, drugs, knife on a bus. he was being monitored until september. they bizarrely took him off being monitored and his roommate was being connecte