and winning together and not about who you sleep with. >> cyd zeigler is the author of this book fairplay: how >> booktv is in scottsdale, arizona, learning more about the city's literary scene. up next, we speak with an author about his time growing up on route 66. >> for the better part of two decades, my family took a road trip every august to the family farm in thompson, iowa. now, we would leave kingman really early. in fact, my mom would pack the night before, and in the morning at four a.m. we were up and ready to roll leaving before light, and i don't think we left kingman, wees caped. and there's -- we escaped. and there was nothing more magnificent than being on the road in those early twilight hours. ♪ ♪ >> i never understood the attraction of route 66 or why it was such a big deal. it was just a road to me. and about four years ago, my wife got an assignment in spain, and is so i went along because i wanted to find the ground zero for the cowboy. because i had a theory, and the theory was if i could find where the con kiese to haves emanated from -- conquistadors emanated from

. >> in your book fairplay you talk about the big sides, what are those #ácustomá the big five is theig five professional sports leagues and a lot of people say it's big four, that would be the nfl, the nfl is the king in america. even with the ratings this year, it's still the most powerful cultural institution we have. it's the nba, major league baseball at the national hockey league. the big five would be adding major league soccer and i like to add major league soccer, i like to call it the big five because the only openly gay athlete we have in any of those leagues is robbie rogers who plays for the la galaxy and who won the last couple of them. >> here is currently the only openly gay athlete in the big five? >> publicly out. certainly there are athletes who are out to some teammates and they have a boyfriend, they're out to their families but we the public don't know or we don't talk about it and right now, the only one is robbie rogers. there's only been one other in history and that was jason collins. michael sam with the nfl never made a regular-season roster so there's only