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he's boring into me with his gaze. [ laughter ] >> seth: are you -- you've talked about marcia clark brought her to the emmys. >> i don't know who -- i don't know who you're talking about. yeah. >> seth: no, but she's -- >> yeah, uh -- >> seth: do you ever -- are you running out of things to talk about, or are you happy to still be -- >> no, it's a kind of wonderful thing because in the beginning when i was starting to work on it, people had so many negative opinions about her. >> seth: yeah. >> and i would try to convince them otherwise that she was a sort of formidable, great lady and had an enormous heart. and they were like, "yeah, yeah. she got the bad hair, the bad skirts. she lost." you know. >> seth: yeah. >> and now there's been a lovely narrative shift, and people have a lot of feeling and good will towards her. and i feel very proud to be associated with that, so -- >> seth: she is wonderful. she was here. we had her as a guest. >> you had her on? >> seth: yeah, it was fantastic -- >> oh, wow. >> seth: to talk to her. and again, i think it's so strange to have somebody tha

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