remember that case, of trayvon martin? looked up the wikipedia page and he writes in that manifesto, my entire life changed that day pip then search for black-on-white hate crimes, crimes and i knew then that something was terribly wrong. and he goes on to say that based on this one day of internet searching, he converted to this, whether it's white nationalist, white supremacist ideology. but it sounds very much, very, very much like what we would call in our field, in my field, a delusion of reference. you see something, something innocuous, one article on wikipedia and suddenly his whole life changes? suddenly -- there's no trajectory of being indoctrinated. there's no journey of his having difficulties with other races. and to top it all off, why aren't asians, billions of asians, included? he makes a point of saying, they're not part of the races, the inferior races. in fact, they could be our allies. that doesn't fit with any white nationalist or white supremacist doctrine that i'm familiar with. that sounds a lot li

trayvon martin, the shootings, even the rise of birtherism. s there a fill so have cal issue to barack obama? michael f.: i think so. he grew up as a black man but grew up with his white grandparents fortunately mothes part. held often reference that when talking about race and straddling the fence in a sense. explaining to the white community the outrage that black citizens would feel behind racial profiling but also to blacks, when you use the term white privilege, for example, not all white folks feel privileged. he'd talk about his personal experience to get pale people on board. and when he could he ignored the question of race. interesting. i was talking earlier in week to jim clyburn. one of the members of congress and we were talking about obama's legacy and he was recalling the controversy around the joe wilson comment. at the present time the health care bill was just percolating in congress and the president was like, don't pursue this, jim. we don't need to talk about this we need to do stuff. drop that. clyburn refused to drop tha

. >> the first thing that i guess, i would say woke me up, would be the trayvon martin case. that was a while back. >> right. >> what was it, two years ago? you know, i kept hearing about this kid, you know. and i'm like, eventually, i decided to, you know, look his name up, just type him into google know what i'm saying? and i read the wikipedia information about trayvon martin and i couldn't understand what the big deal was. and for some reason, after i read that, i typed in, for some reason, it made me type in the words black on white crime. and that was it. ever since then. >> after the break, we'll discuss this with nancy jiles and yanearby alisyn der. she has interviewed white nationalists. that's next. ♪ if you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. if other treatments haven't worked well enough, ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works by focusing right in the gi-tract to help control dama

. >> the first thing that i guess, i would say woke me up, would be the trayvon martin case.ile back. >> right. >> what was it, two years ago? you know, i kept hearing about this kid, you know. and i'm like, eventually, i decided to, you know, look his name up, just type him into google know what i'm saying? and i read the wikipedia information about trayvon martin and i couldn't understand what the big deal was. and for some reason, after i read that, i typed in, for some reason, it made me type in the words black on white crime. and that was it. ever since then. >> after the break, we'll discuss this with nancy jiles and yanearby alisyn der. she has interviewed white nationalists. that's next. and you're talking to youro doctor about your medication... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me go further. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira

he said the trayvon martin case woke him up and prompted him to research online. prosecutors showed jurors the confession on the third day of roof's federal trial, where he's accused of 33 counts including hate crimes. minutes before the massacre, during bible study, prosecutors say roof can be seen in this surveillance video. he quietly walked out, gun in hand. he said i was absolutely in awe that nobody was out there. if they had been there, he would have shot himself. he was arrested for a traffic stop the next day and he seemed surprised when he was told that nine people died. when asked what he would say to the families of the victims, he said i couldn't even look at them. they found this entry, i would love for there to be a race war. roof's defense team is not disputing the facts in this case. their goal is to avoid the death penalty. it would be their first such conviction in a hate crime. >>> the biggest safety recall in u.s. history involving some 69 million defective car air bags, the government says it's taking far too long to swap out the defective ba

>>nats of protesters: trayvon martin! >> reporter:he says the trayvon martin case triggered his decision to kill, saying "no skinheads, no real kkk" are taking action; someone must, quote "i guess that has to be me" >> reporter:the first witness brought to the stand was felicia sanders, a shooting survivor, forced to take a break from recounting her gut wrenching testimony. the last witness -- 72- year-old polly sheppard -- describing how she hid under a table -- praying as bullet casings fell around her -- until roof told her he'd let her live to tell the horrific story. >>nats of 911 call: he's still in the building. please help us. >> reporter:newly released audio from her 9-1-1 call capturing the panic inside: >>nats of 911 caller: there's so many people dead, i think. oh, my god. >>nats 911 operator: you said there's so many people dead? >>nats of 911 caller: i think they're dead. yes. >> reporter:roof -- listening expressionless and emotionless, showing no remorse. >> vicki:chilling. >> vicki:the next move is the ju

this was back around 2012 and incident with trayvon martin happened. in response to that, i created a series.plan i had my students write mother's trayvon martin's mom and send to their foundation. thought i was teaching the values of empathy and compassion was the right thing to do. sadly, the school administration agree with me and they fired me. this story was featured on from new york and on and on. from that moment, i learned to that game face attitude. i did what i felt was right. world didn't accept learned lidate it, i from that experience. when it happens, you feel the against me, i'm not on the right path. staying true to your core values i think y'all ave and i have, too, and we share that. [applause] >> i talked early having courage yourself ence to put out there. y comments will ecko monica's exactly. you have to take the initiative do it t for yourself or for your family or for a friend. you got to lily, have that initiative in order to do that. kristen: one thing i wanted to bring in this conversation is have heard about already in this

. >> yes. >> here's what he said at the time. >> when trayvon martin was first shot, i said thatthis could have been my son. another way of saying that is trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago. >> i was in the white house press briefing room when that extraordinary moment of political and america's racial history happened, what are your reflexes about that moment? >> i remember it coming and not to be too critical, i remember it coming a little bit late. i wish that had been the very first thing he said but that said it was extraordinarily powerful to see an african-american president take ownership of the african-american community in that way in a moment of pain and strife we're fighting to get basically our humanity recognized through this 17-year-old boy who was killed. >> we should have seen this in a joint session of congress on december 10th, 2009, that should have been the omen what the next eight years will be like. let's refresh everyone's memory of that remarkable moment. >> the forms i am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegal. [ yelling ]. >

>> reporter: he says it was the racially divisive case of trayvon martin in florida that woke him up. he says he's a white nationalist, who believes in the supremacy of white people. david? >> steve, thank you. >>> next to breaking developments involving the trump white house. a short time ago, we learned rudy giuliani has taken himself out of consideration for secretary of state. and the trump team responding to news that the president-elect will continue in his producing role in celebrity apprentice. here's tom llamas. >> reporter: tonight, that bombshell from team trump. rudy giuliani removing himself from consideration for a position in the trump administration. >> i saw that he had so many good candidates available. i mean, there was no reason to complicate his life any longer. >> reporter: at one point giuliani was on the shortlist for secretary of state. even campaigning for the position. but as trump's list of potential candidates expands with mitt romney and that publicized dinner, and now rex tillerson in the mix, giuliani's stock dropped. tonight, giuliani also hoping rom m

trayvon martin was still dead,d, we were still having these conversations about race and ethnicity in colleges and insa cultures, still seeing diversity issues in our popular culture, right? and i, i'll never forget an activist look at claire mccaskill, the senator from missouri, during a town hall, t and she was, you know, encouraging the protests, encouraging the activism, but she said, you know, what you guys need to do is you need tot register to vote, you need to turn out -- what we often hear in terms of how people should politically engage. and i remember this activist saying i voted for barack obama twice, and michael brown is still dead. this idea that just the existence of a black president could not, in fact, e erase the history and the reality that we live in.n. >> host: they can't kill us all, is the name of the book. wesley lowery is our guest. he's a national reporter with "the washington post," and let's take some calls. ryan in sedona, arizona. hi, ryan. >> caller: hi, how you doing? i've got a few comments to make. thank you, bud, for writing your book and for standi

trayvon martin was the youngest victim. he was a junior at the school of the arts in san francisco. kpix 5's emily turner spoke to loved ones of some of those victims. emily? >> reporter: yeah. and they are heartbroken just as you can imagine. as is just about everybody who shows up at this memorial. with a death toll this high there's hardly anyone in the oakland community this fire has not touched. as the makeshift memorial outside the oakland warehouse fire grows, so does the list of names of those who died in it. one of those was 17-year-old draven mcgill. >> he was in several a cappella groups. he was going to a special school in san francisco. and he was just a sweet young man. pro he was a student at the school of the arts in san francisco. and his great aunt says the son of an alameda county sheriff's deputy. >> the whole family is obviously devastated and he was just a good kid. really good and cut off two short. >> reporter: she like so many others brought flowers to the memorial today. the urban mantra score -- the teachers are also morning. sarah hoda was a support teach

he said the trayvon martin case woke him up. what i did is still minuscule to what they're doing to white people every day he told fbi agents. prosecutors showed jurors the confession on the third day of roof's federal trial where he is accused of 33 counts including hate crimes. minutes before the massacre, during bible study, prosecutors said roof could be seen in this snap chat video. when the bloodshed was over, he quietly walked out gun in hand. i was in absolute awe that there was nobody out there, he told investigators. adding that if officers had been waiting for him, he would have shot himself. instead, police arrested him during a traffic stop the next day. and he seemed surprised when he was told nine church members had died. when the fbi agents asked him what he would tell the families of the victims he said, i couldn't even look at them. investigators found the journal in his car with a swastika scrawled inside and this entry, i would love for there to be a race war. roof's defense team is not disputing the facts of

the trayvon martin was still dead, we were having conversations about race and ethnicity in colleges and culture, seeing diversity issues in popular culture. i will never forget an activist looking at claire mccaskill, senator from missouri, during a town hall, she was encouraging the protests, encouraging the activism but she said what you need to do is register to vote, turn out, what we often hear in terms of how people are politically engaged, the activist looked at her and said i voted for barack obama twice and michael brown is still dead. this idea that the existence of a black president could not erase the history and reality we live in. >> host: "they can't kill us all: ferguson, baltimore, and a new era in america's racial justice movement" is the name of the book. wesley lowery is our guest, national report with washington post. let's take some calls. let's hear from ryan in arizona. >> caller: thank you, thank you for writing your book and standing up to the people. i am a white american. if i were black in america i would be dead. i have been denied healthcare for preexi

this is back around 2012, the terrible incident with trayvon martin happened. in response to that i created a lesson plan series and i had my students write mother's day cards for trayvon martin's mom and send them to the foundation. i thought i was teaching values and empathy and compassion was the right thing to do. is a sadly the school administration didn't agree with me and fired me. this was story was featured on humans from new york. i felt from that moment that i learned to have that game face attitude. you know, i did what i thought was right. even if the world didn't accept it and validate i will go forth and do what is right and moved on from the experience. i know sometimes when the downs happen, it is tempting for us to say i can't do it anymore, i can't take it, the world is against me, i'm not on the right path but staying true to your core values is a value i think you all have and i do too and we all share that. [applause] >> i talked a bit about it earlier, having courage and confidence to get out there and put yourself out there, but also tak

she said the hashtag following the trayvon martin killing went viral. >> it holds up the lives of all marginalized people. >> reporter: the tv perception of the movement has been drowned out in recent months by scenes of protests and violence. many people are confused by the name and concerned that they have a singular fee kus. >> as soon as we learn to practice inclusion, we will erase the lines of racism and discrimination. >> reporter: nationally and locally there are fears that a change in washington, dc will change racial relations. >> we all came together and discussed what is hurting us and what we are afraid of in today's america. >> reporter: they are tough questions but people here believe that the discussion will put everyone on the path to answers. >>> thank you. a man hunt is underway in georgia where a shooting has left one police officer dead and another in critical condition. police are looking for a felon wanted on multiple warrants. the suspect opened fire on the police officers and the campus of george state was put on lock down. the officer is from the america's po

there were 6,000 african-american men, one being trayvon martin, the other being jordan.dresses a lot of what you just brought up, one of the things, and i'm glad robert is here from the brady campaign a lot of his organizations have been trying to be more inclusive in the work they do. up until probably last year after charleston, we all had a big organizing meeting to directly address the fact that out of the national gun violence, they'll get more than millions, hundreds of millions of dollars a year. there was not one person of color that was an executive director. they were 100% led by white men. 100%, there was not representation of people of color anywhere in the national leadership. does that mean that people of color couldn't come to the meetings? no. we were there at the meetings, but we weren't represented in the leadership divisions. that's something hopefully we can get into where is the money, where are the people supporting. i know we like to talk more about that it's been definitely addressed. there has been a lot of really great movement from reports, fun

trayvon martin would be alive today if he wasn't wearing thug wear, if he wasn't wearing that hoodie.tice, no peace! >> the president's response was personal. >> when i think about t boy, i think about my own kids. you know if i had a son he would look like trayvon. >> within months case after case began to make headlines. young black men dying at the hands of law enforcement. >> don't shoot him. don't shoot him. >> the details were often disputed. >> but the rage was clear. shut it down! african-americans did battle with the police. and a new civil rights group, black lives matter, quickly grew in number. some in the african-american community turned their rage on barack obama. >> stop telling black folk they got to wait and these things take time. we can't wait. mr. president, when you say we can't compare what's happening now to what happened 50 years ago, tell that to the parths of the kids being gunned down on open streets. >> the president faced an impossible challenge -- to be black enough to satisfy african-americans, yet post-racial nust to reassure many whites. >> he never r

trayvon martin was on his way home from buying candy when he was shot and killed by a neighborhood watchteer. >> zimmerman is not a racist. trayvon martin would be alive today if he wasn't wearing thugwear, that hoodie. >> the president's response was personal. >> when i think about this boy, i think about my own kids. if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. within months, case after case began to make headlines. >> young black men dying at the hand of law enforcement. >> don't shoot him. don't shoot him. >> the details were often disputed. but the rage was clear. >> shut it down. >> african-americans did battle with the police. and a new civil rights group, black lives matter, quickly grew in number. some in the african-american community turned their rage on barack obama. >> stop telling black folk they got to wait and that these things take time. we can't wait, number one. number two, mr. president, respectfully, when you say we can't compare what's happening now to what happened 50 years ago, tell that to the parents of these kids who are being gunned down in america's streets. i

it is not the michael brown or the trayvon martin's or the -- i could go through numbers and my phone and tired the numbers. know that any of us in this room, predominantly, african-american population that would be impacted by this, but it could impact any of us, so we need to organize and we need to address policy because we have to attack us on every single front. one thing will not work, so we need to deal with it in every form and fashion we can, so everything we talk about today and will talk about, we need to look at and see if we can get the change, if necessary. >> i was going to say i think we need both. i also believe in the importance of knowing your lane. i have had to learn that area a lot of people would wonder how i would answer the question actually do policy is my nana clocked about a quart, which means i really do spreadsheets. [laughter] that from my point of view, there is a place for policy and legislation. i think that is immediate relief . i feel like these are the things we know specifically in d.c. that we need to fund and we need to make sure that it is not

there were 6,000 african-american men, one being trayvon martin, the other being jordan.st brought up, one of the things, and i'm glad robert is here from the brady campaign a lot of his organizations have been trying to be more inclusive in the work they do. up until probably last year after charleston, we all had a big organizing meeting to directly address the fact that out of the national gun violence, they'll get more than millions, hundreds of millions of dollars a year. there was not one person of color that was an executive director. they were 100% led by white men. 100%, there was not representation of people of color anywhere in the national leadership. does that mean that people of color couldn't come to the meetings? no. we were there at the meetings, but we weren't represented in the leadership divisions. that's something hopefully we can get into where is the money, where are the people supporting. i know we like to talk more about that it's been definitely addressed. there has been a lot of really great movement from reports, funding, shifting of how we pri

he told fbi agents the trayvon martin case woke him up and -- >> what i did is so miniscule of what theyto white people every day. >> he thought it would chose this because he thought it would resonate. when the bloodshed was over, he quietly walked out, gun in hand. >> there was nobody out there. >> he was adding if officers had been waiting for him, he would have shot himself. police arrested him in a traffic stop and he was surprised when he was told nine church members died. >> you were under the assumption you killed four or five people, right? >> yes, that's true. >> but your numbers doubled, it was nine. >> and officers found a journal with a swastika inside saying, i would love if there was a race war. roof's defense team is to avoid the death penalty. after roof's confession he told the 21-year-old his plan to start a race war did not work and the people of charleston were coming together, and his last words to roof, you failed. gabe gutierrez, nbc news. >> thank you for that. joining us now a state senator and msnbc political analyst. the questions i might ask when we see that

ee there's typically threesponse responses, response that states that the individual, whether trayvon martinor jordan davis in florida was acting recklessly , or you have people who say that the police officer was acting recklessly and then you have people who state both. those three positions have been the three positions people have utilized to explain racial disparities over the course of american history. there's something wrong withe black people or racial profiling or both. we see that plane out. like even though the racial groups are equal which means that there some black people whp act recklessly before the people in some black people don't come for some white people who act recklessly before the police and some that do not. in that the racial groups of are equal or they're not. and when they're not there so many people who believe they're not that black people actually commit more crimes when the statistics say otherwise.racial we know the racial groups, where talk about this earlier, we know why people are much more likely to sell and consume drugs in this country. we know there's

the idea that you can go from emmett till to trayvon martin to walter scott to the charleston nine andtrial happening across the street from where the slager trial occurred. the idea is that it's not one off incidents but rather a type of systemic and structural question here. as thousands of people, tens of thousands of people have taken the streets over the last few years, that has been the rallying cry time and time again that it's not just about whether michael brown's hands were up or tamir rice's toy gun looked like a gun but the idea that black people make up 12% of the population yet 24% of the unarmed people killed by police. this question of, is there something about the way we're policing and our criminal justice system itself that's preventing, one, causing or allowing more people of color to be killed or two, prevent them from achieving justice. >> "they can't kill us." a fascinating read. thank you. >> anytime, thanks, craig. >>> new revelations out of that investigation to the oakland warehouse fire that killed 36 people. oakland's city planner saying that inspectors had

. >> reporter: he told fbi agents the trayvon martin case woke him up and prompted him to research black on white crime online. >> what i did is so miniscule to what they're doing to wite white people every day. >> reporter: this is security video of roof entering the historic building which he says he chose because he thought it would resonate. minutes before the massacre, during bible study prosecutors said roof could be seen in this snapchat video, when the bloodshed was over he quietly walked out, gun in hand. >> i was in absolute awe that there was nobody out there. >> reporter: adding that if officers had been waiting for him, he would have shot himself. police arrested him during a traffic stop the next day and he seemed surprised when he was told nine church members had died. >> you were under the assumption you killed four or five people, right? >> yes, that's true. >> reporter: but your numbers were doubled, it was nine. >> reporter: investigators found a journal in his car with a swastika scrawled inside and this entry "i would love for there to be a race war." the fbi agents

he says the trayvon martin case triggered his decision to kill.g no skin heads, no real kkk are taking action. someone must. "i guess that has to be me." the first witness brought to the stand was felicia sanders. a shooting survivor forced to take a break from accounting her gut wrenching testimony. the last witness polly shepherd describing how she hid under a table praying as bullet casings fell around her until roof told her he'd let her live to tell the horrific story. newly releaseded audio from her 911 call capturing the panic inside. >> there's so many people dead, i think. my god. >> you said there's so many people dead? >> i think they're dead. yes. >> reporter: roof listening expressionless and emotionless showing no remorse. the defense rested without calling a single witness to the stand. at the end of court yesterday roof's defense attorney did try to call two mental health experts to the stand but a judge denied that motion. a lot of drama surrounding roof's defense up until about two weeks ago. the 22-year-old said he wanted to rep

he said it was the trayvon martin case that, quote, woke him up. he said he was surprised, in awe when he walked out of the church after the shooting and saw there were no police officers waiting for him. he said if police had found him inside the church he was prepared to shoot himself. craig? >> any idea what the reaction has been to the tape from the jurors expect? >> reporter: i have only been able to go to the media overflow room where you really can't see. i was able to seedy lan roof yesterday. he's just looked silent, expressionless, looking down at the defense table the whole time. you can see wooden benches where the family members of victims are seated in the first couple of rows. so it's incred ed b krecredibly. you can sense the tension even in the adjacent room. there is a stark contrast between the dylan roof i saw in the courtroom. again very silent. sort of absent. to the dylan roof we are seeing in the confession video. he seems animated with his hands in this video. he also seems surprised when agents tell him that he actually ki

he calls himself a white nationalist and says the trayvon martin c up. for "good morning america," steve osunsami, abc news, atlanta. >> steve, thank you. just horrifying to listen to and to watch especiay to see those victims in their final moments. >>> we have to switch gears and talk about the radical new step taken by samsung as part of their massive recall of those galaxy note 7 phones. >> samsung has already recalled the phones after reports that some caught pfeifer. some, however, holding on to those phones so samsung is planning a software update that will make the remaining phones inoperable. gloria rivera has details. >> reporter: it's been a long and costly road for samsung and not over yet. they're appearing to throw a hail mary rolling out an update to make sure every last phone that could pose a threat is disabled. after months of phones on fire, kill switch. the over the air update already agreed to by three of the country's biggest wireless providers will prevent the note 7 from chaing at all and eliminate their ability to work as noble d

>> well, shades of trayvon martin and zimmerman. remember? >> uh-huh. >> here, look, the -- gasser admits shooting him, three shots, he was there when the police came with his gun. mcknight did not have a weapon on him. and should he have been arrested on the spot, i think so. i think it's a matter of days before he's arrested and charged here. it's absolutely going to happen. the stand your ground defense is not going to be something to prevent a prosecution here. and i don't know that there is a viable stand your ground defense. this is just an outrageous, horrifying situation where a driver can just powell a gun and blow someone away. it's just beyond belief. mcknight did not have a weapon. he's only about 5'11", had not like he's 6'5" and 350 pounds. so you know, was there reasonable fear for his life by gasser? i don't know. he also seems to have a history of road rage in the past. no convictions, but a history. i not he's in trouble. >> avery, police want to investigate more, and that's why he was not arrested on the spot. is that expla

there feels like it's still going on i was watching the news about eric arner and mike brown and trayvon martinne of the things that i couldn't shake was mike brown was known as big mike and eric garner was a big man. staten island is very close and rob edwards the man who was lynched in or said county was known as big rob edwards. when i saw these cases happening over the last year i just could not shake the parallels that these were large men and there seemed to be this insane targeting of them simply because they were tall, like exactly what you say. there are sociologists who have done research on the lynching statistics and this is not imaginary. mobs frequently targeted large men who often came from somewhere else. if they didn't have kin that were nearby they were targeted and that certainly join forsyth county that i don't have a solution for a race in america who you know. i think only a fool would suggest that. i don't have a solution but what i found from this, the one thing that motivated this book as i had faith in the particular and specific and that the devil is in the details an

then later on in the first term we had the trayvon martin issue where he said "that could be me." so we saw issues and in the second term he became a person we saw as, wow, he's engaged in the community more, talking about black issues more, he feels at ease. so it was interesting to report the dynamic of the first black president first term versus the second term. he had nothing to lose second term. he had a second term. >> the skip gates issue is interesting. so this was the issue of the officers coming into his cambridge home and even after it was clear he was -- that it was him and it was his home they arrested him and the president said that was stupid that they acted in a stupid way. and i remember hearing the reaction to the coverage of that, that the president was so annoyed that we made that the issue instead of focusing on that press conference that day which was all about health care reform where he tried to explain it and i remember saying to an adviser, i'm like come on, he needs to understand that the first black president calls the police stupid in a racial incident

and i think one of the things that was so shocking to people was the idea that the trayvon martin casetrial with george zimmerman was such a polarizing aspect of our country and one i thought that would quell ch racial tensions. in his mind, it served as an impetus behind this act. it was heart breaking to hear that there was this particular person who had no remorse, no express of remorse and a very, very quick confession in this case. >> because of that, what does that tell you about his mental cape abouts? we know that he is capable enough to stand trial, but he's representing himself. there are a lot of questions and it seems like the defense, as i understand it, is not going to call a lot of witnesses initially. they are banking on his mental health getting him off of death row. do you think that's possible? >> no. and the irony of that is that he has opted to have his defense attorneys help him with the guilty phase of the trial and for himself to be able to cover for the penalty phase, which is very shocking because the guilty phase, one you expect him to make a defense here. th

. >> then he makes it very personal talking around the case of trayvon martin and talks about himself and his children. looking at policies, though, health care reform, obviously the first domestic big thing he took on as commander in chief, now threatening to be completely dismantled by the republicans. also when it comes to foreign policy, he says syria haunts him still but then has the iran nuclear deal and what has been done in opening up cuba. so many of these on the world stage. >> you know, it's interesting, i think he feels that he has really changed the orientation of american foreign policy, the way he's reached out to countries that we had no conversations with like iran, cuba, burma, myanmar, for decades and decades and he's made openings to them to try to see are there places we can cut a deal, find a new opening, and i think perhaps most importantly, we talked about this in the speech yesterday, he tried to put terrorism in perspective, to say look, this is not an existential threat, this is not like the soviet union, not like nazi armies marching across europe. these ar

he says the trayvon martin case triggered his decision to kill. saying no skin heads, no real kkk are taking action. someone must. "i guess that has to be me." the first witness brought to the stand was felicia sanders. a shooting survivor forced to take a break from accounting her gut wrenching testimony. the last witness, 72-year-old polysheppard describing how she hid under a table, prague as bullet casings fell around her. until roof told her he'd let her live to tell the horrific story. >> he came into the building. >> reporter: newly released audio from her 911 call capturing the panic inside. >> there's so many people dead, i think. oh, my god. >> you said there's so many people dead? >> i think they're dead. yes. >> reporter: roof listening expressionless and emotionless showing no remorse. the defense rested its case without calling a single witness. late yesterday they did try to get two mental health experts to testify on dylann roof's behalf but a judge denied that motion. carol, there's been a lot of drama surrounding dylann roof's de

with me now, mark o'mara, cnn legal analyst who represented george zimmerman in the trayvon martin case. why did the defense rest so quickly? >> i'm surprised at that. roof seems to be the captain of the ship when he shouldn't be, he should be listening to the lawyers but they didn't put on a lot of evidence. you would think now is an tune time to get on some of the mental health evidence, even if not through experts at least get it in through some facts, some information, it's not a question of did he do it. the question is is he going to die for it. that will be a question presented at the mipenalty phas and presumably at the guilt phase but it wasn't. >> so looking to your point as to whether he will die for what he did piece, from a defense perspective, how would you argue to save his life? map that out. >> it's very difficult. very few percent of death penalty eligible cases are pre-med pre-meditated. this is premeditated murder. that is the exception to the rule and the presumption in most jurors' minds is you kill somebody with full intent and you get the worse penalty. the only

. >> reporter: he told agents the trayvon martin case woke him up and prompted him to research black on white crime. >> what i did is so minuscule to what they're doing to white people every day. >> reporter: this is security tape of roof entering. minutes before the massacre, prosecutors said roof could be seen in this snapchat video. when the bloodshed was over, he quietly walked out, gun in hand. >> i was in absolute awe that there was nobody out there. >> reporter: adding that if officers had been waiting for him, he would have shot himself. police arrested him during a traffic stop the next day, and he seemed surprised when he was told nine church members had died. >> you were under the assumption you killed four or five people? >> right. yes, that's true. >> but your numbers were doubled. it was nine. >> reporter: investigators found a journal in his car with a swastika scrawled inside and this entry. i would love for there to be a race war. the fbi agents asked him what he would tell the families of the victims. >> i probably couldn't even look at them. >> reporter: roof's def

and by the end of it, after all those racial incidents and with the iphone videos and trayvon martint, i think he found a more comfortable place where he could be both half white and half black, where he could speak to the frustrations and aspirations of black americans. >> it's interesting, because i think that's an experience that a lot of people of color, especially men of color, have, even though they may not be biracial, right? you have to sort of code switch in order to gain confidence or make other people comfortable even though it's not fair that one has to do that. it must be an interesting experience to have to do it as a president. >> i think that's exactly right. as an immigrant i see that on the one hand you have to assimilate. on the other hand you have your roots. >> i can't wait to see this. hopefully you'll be back on tomorrow. barack obama talks about his triumphs and struggles in his years in the white house. "the legacy of barack obama" is on tomorrow night at 9:00. >>> when it comes to his people, will donald trump be up to the job? oh. company, companionship, fo

office, the number of -- the kind of police/community issues, black lives matter, all of this, trayvon martin was one of the first things that kind of kicked him and kind of -- in the that he needed to completely change, but it did alter him fundamentally and make him look at these -- at this group of people and he saw how much of an impact that he was personally having on the black community in terms of image and, like, people being able to look at the white house and say, there's somebody there who looks like me and those little boys would try to rub his hair and make sure that it felt like theirs. he -- he was changed by that. he understands that he has a particular power and potency in the black community and he wants to use that to good and that is a remarkable thing. >> yeah. listen, paris, it's not perfect. there's a lot of work to do in all communities and the black community as well, but since the president took office, the number of unemployed black teens, the initiative is about young black men, has dropped by more than half. what did you hope race relations would look like at the