s you have to make sure they don't defect. >> we had john mccain as a serious detractor of our then-secretary of defenses don rumsfeld. he was far more than a gadfly. national conversation about what was going wrong in -- i would have to say, i don't think it's an overstatement to suggest john mccain's critique of the war led to a policy process that led to the surge that turned the war around. he is a very influential voice on foreign policy the world over and even more importantly, i think jeremy mentioned that russia's neighbors are under increasing threat. this is going to be a flashpoint time and time again because donald trump has set a tone the world over that he's going to tolerate more monkey business from vladimir putin than past american presidents of both parties and john mccain will be able to draw the world's attention to what putin is up to and hold the white house's feet to the fire. i would never underestimate his policy. >> gadfly may be inappropriate, he's the chairman of the armed services committee, but the critical thing here is he has been a constant critic of your president, of my president and

s you have to make sure they don't defect. >> we had john mccain as a serious detractor of our th then-secretary of defenses don rumsfeld.e was far more than a gadfly. he was able to drive the national conversation about what was going wrong in -- i would have to say, i don't think it's an overstatement to suggest john mccain's critique of the war led to a policy process that led to the surge that turned the war around. he is a very influential voice on foreign policy the world over and even more importantly, i think jeremy mentioned that russia's neighbors are under increasing threat. this is going to be a flashpoint time and time again because donald trump has set a tone the world over that he's going to tolerate more monkey business from vladimir putin than past american presidents of both parties and john mccain will be able to draw the world's attention to what putin is up to and hold the white house's feet to the fire. i would never underestimate his policy. >> gadfly may be inappropriate, he's the chairman of the armed services committee, but the critical thing here is he has been a constant critic of your preside