we do not in addition contribute to the hsa. we contribute to if they choose the hra then we would contribute for that same team member, they would get $700 and they could also earn their wellness dollars of $800 on top of that. >> yes? >> i agree this has been a terrific panel. my name is harris alan and i'm a consultant in health care. two questions. the first observation is that we're talking about four different basic initiatives that have really would appear to have made strong strides towards improving value in health care. very distinct different but all originating from employers. the first question is, has there been any effort to look at the -- to quantify the impact of your initiatives on organizational performance or profitabili profitability? the second question is, have you seen -- if you are taking steps that are creating a culture towards value improvement, are you seeing this rub off on the -- on other stakeholders groups with whom you're interfacing above and beyond your direct engagement with them on the issue

that's been our experience with using hsa. there's a lot of conversation about additional ways of improving those. and perhaps we'll get to some of that as we go get to the question and answer section. >> thank you. yvette. thank you, dive in. >> i'm happy to be here. representing calpers. for those of you not familiar with calpers they are largest federal purchaser in the country. they spent $8 billion on behalf of 1.5 retired workers in their family. they have a similar cost patterns to the national trends about 67% of costs are encured by 8.5% of the members. 1 in 4 members have 50% totally spend. given that case mix and level of spending calpers has have goal of reducing health care cost growth. to support that growth has been leading innovator purchasing innovations that have demonstrated cost reduction and improved access in quality for our members. they have developed several highly successful benefit initiative to lay groundwork for different reform incluing some of the panels including bunled payments val based purcha

who do not use the hsa. so they're seeing their doctors. they're getting far more preventative screenings. they have lower emergency room usage than those who do not use the hsa, lower prescription usage and overall lower costs. so we are seeing very good behaviors in the space, through the use of better consumerism. then finally we're also seeing that our team members who utilize the hsa are far more engaged on well being activities. that is good on two front. they're earning well being dollars and they're engaging in lifelong healthy habits of getting their screenings, of doing positive activities, getting in motion an doing things that are going to lead them to either maintain their positive health status or make that even better over time. so that has been our experience with using hsas. clearly as we heard from dr. burgess there is a lot of conversation about additional ways of improving those. perhaps we'll get to some of that as we get to the question and answer session. alice, i will turn it over to

here's the thing with an hsa we think is super important. in order to have an hsa, you have to also have it pared with a high deductible health plan. we want to be really careful about that, right? because if somebody has a high deductible, they're paying for their health care up to that amount of the deductible. so that's where the shared responsibility for us as an employer comes in. we need to surround that hsa with those tools for success for our team members to make sure that they have what they need to make those good, consumer had-based health decisions. how do we do that at wells fargo? we have a well being program that allows each team member to earn up to $800 a year that we then place into that hsa account. in addition, their spouse or domestic partner can earn up to $800 a year to put into that hsa account. and they can use that towards that you are out of pocket costs. secondly, we need to make sure we let our team members know how much they will pay for services and give them that transparency into the costs of health care. tha

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to really put incentives out there for hsas. now, some people are not where i am. i want you to have pretax money you can put in unlimited amounts in hsas -- >> neil: you're talking about health savings accounts. you're an expert in this. let me ask you, the rap against this approach -- i understand there's only so many vehicles you can use to repeal this thing. it started with rand paul who was worried it will increase the definite, increase the debt, there's got to be a better way out there. it does not appear there is. >> the trouble in -- i think the world of rand. but the trouble with this budget is it is a good budget. one of the concerns i have to do following this vehicle that we now created is to leave some of these taxes and fees in place so that we run up hundreds of billions of dollars in reserve funds. there's republicans and democrats that would like to keep some of that massive taxes that were created by obamacare. some of us want the money to go back to the consumer so they can spend it on insurance policies. we'll have debates on that. one thing i'

. >> reporter: iraqi hameed khalid darweesh has a special immigrant hsa, thanks to his work for the ntsvernment. >> i support u.s. government from the other side of the world, but when i came here, they-- they said, "no." and they act as if i break the rules or do something wrong. >> reporter: on friday, president donald trump signed an executive order that puts a -mur-month hold on refugees settling in the u.s., a 90-day ban for visitors from several muslim-majority nations and a block on all syrian refugees indefinitely. >> we're going to have a very, very strict ban, and we're going sh have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years. ef reporter: youssef kubis is an american citizen with family members who fled war-torn syria. they're now stranded in greece. >> i feel ashamed to be living in this country now with this executive order. there is no chance for them. >> reporter: lawyers representing the two migrants detained at j.f.k. were quick to file a federal complaint today and a motion for a class action lawsuit. >> this is a discriminatory order from

paying the amount of money for the premium monthly, plus the out of pocket deductible on some of these hsa's yare you really ahead? there are individuals that if they make too much, they do not qualify for public aid or medicaid or letter node -- let alone i do not know if i would want to use that insurance. you combine that with the poor choices that are on the marketplace. thoses, a lot of insurance companies today have pulled out of the marketplace. and you know, not everybody wants an hmo. so, thsese costs have really gone through the roof compared to where insurance was with years ago to where they are today. i understand insurance companies do increase their rates and so forth and what have you, but even with the subsidies, you know, it is absurd to be paying health insurance with such a high deductible and a high premium out of pocket. where are people really ahead? host: paige winfield cunningham. guest: so, insurance premiums were going up before the affordable care act was passed. the caller is from illinois. that has been a state that has struggled the most. it's marketplace has s

obamacare guts hsa 's let's focus on allowing pools of individuals whether a small business too poolingtogether. i think people will be excited when they see not just us moving forward on repealing obamacare but also on the really neat elements to focus on lowers costs, which have been shut out by obamacare, we'll engage american people, on seeing just what healthcare should be. and we'll help bridge in place as we put this plan forward quickly. maria: i want to read to what you senator bob corker said of tennessee, he said that republicans might find themselves in a box cannon if they incrementaly replace parts of the law, saying taking unpopular vote to increase taxes, if they repeal part of obamacare that increases taxes on hig higher wage earnings. is that on the table raising taxes? >> no. we're not raising taxes, obamacare dram at belie raised tax -- dramatically raised taxes, that kril crippled our ey in many ways, let's get rid of this broken law, throughout this process, we're not only talking about what healthcare should be and what it can be. under our plan, but also reminds

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they should go from that angle, an hsa far as i have account and that hsa account has it, but i wouldto see where instead of people for not having insurance, allow people hsa account own and have it set up with their wn bank and be able to contribute money to it so they can use it for their medical expenses. and make it where they don't have to have a specific be able to do that. from vic , joins us vicksburg, mississippi. good morning, casey. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. comment, my message to divisivenesshis is of the country is something verybody noticed that was pretty severe. the fact now the republicans have control of the white house, and thee of republicans senate, i wanted to let people it clear that -- pay attention to what happens next four years because it would seem to me that whatever legislation to pass and ant what they believe in shouldn't ave as much problem going through and saying like four years from now, every election battle another divisive between republicans and democrats, like they got what they wanted and republicans didn't get what they

in aco development, in hsa design and so on. so we do want to be learning actively and have a dialogue between these thought leaders and innovators and people here who are developing much broader public policy statements. i'd also note i think this was highlighted in alley's questions. these are carefully constructed programs. these are not blunt instruments. what the employers have learned often they have to be thoughtful in crafting these programs to suit the need of their population and the environment. secondly, these employers are engaging in direct discussions with providers. they are not relying only on their health plan as a mediating organization. but they often find themselves needing to drive innovation directly in conversation with the providers. and then moreover as you also heard, they remain in direct conversation with their provider systems. if you get into the weeds of some of the models you heard about today you'll see how much time they put into understanding the care paths, and trying to support them in makin

high deductibles with hsa's, businesses can go back to the chambers of commerce and get insurance againthat was outlawed under the aca. many members lost half the members because that's when they were getting insurance. when they lost, that they left. >> you've got to get the message out that for at least 2017, and i guess 2018, a part of it, that you cannot lose your health care. >> sure, but we have to count on the liberal press to deliver that message. they're too busy delivering the message that the sky is falling, let's face it. >> congressman chris collins, so good to have you here. >> always good to be with you, judge. >> and still ahead -- ben stein joins me live to discuss donald trump's inaugural speech and more. >>> plus, putting america first. >> we've lost 70,000 factories. 70,000 factories since 2001, politicians do nothing about it. america has to start coming first again. >> part two of my exclusive interview with eric trump, the first since the first family moved into the white house. don't miss it. >>> and then -- >> hate so deep that there's nothing the man can do? >>

it will be expanding hsa's, going across state lines, buying any kind of insurance and insurance companies want to sell, and will also involve something very important with sludge be expanding corporations you should be allowed to associate. if we do those things, the cost of insurance comes down, and get rid of the pre-existing -- spewing republicans haven't told the entire congress for a while. you just got elected to her second term, you're hardly the most senior guy in the senate. why haven't they agreed on a replacement plan until now? >> here's the thing. there are 50 plate replacement bills out there. i met with congress when tom price who's been appointed to the cabinet, i'm supportive of him, i'm supportive of many of his ideas. many of the ideas which are in bill form are his. you have all these bills, put together a replacement bill and vote on the monday one, but if you don't, the secondly repeal it, we're going to be rude blamed for all the unraveling of obamacare. and mark my words, it's going to unravel and unravel even quicker and we are going to be blamed for the bankruptc

if you are at the poverty level or below the poverty level, you don't have the income to put into an hsa. so we're going to have to watch and see what he says, what congress says and what they actually do. providing for health savings accounts for every american looks nice on paper. but it's really not going to move the ball forward. we'll see a lot of people with a lot of problems and then what's going to happen to the justice department, a whole other ball of wax. >> open our minds and hearts and be optimistic and hold them accountable. hopefully work together. we'll take a break. next, another rift. the rift between donald trump and the nation's intelligence community is growing even deeper. i know you want to talk about it. the president-elect directly accusing the head of the cia as possibly being the leak. plus, they started rehearsals for the inauguration day parade over the weekend and now new questions about not only the performers but lawmakers who might not want to attend. the head of the inauguration joins us live next. >>> and i got to share this. it's monday. you know we're

believe the program's history, the beneficiary financial contribution, in the form of a contribution hsawas binding. as in failure to pay would have actual repercussions. and those repercussions could include losing medicaid coverage for some period of time. it's never really been done before in medicaid. so that's kind of where we've got about 31 of the states who have done the expansion up until now and the rest have not. which kind of leads us into what's next. we are having a lot of conversations around, well, what is the prospect for expansion look like in the next administration. and as people were thinking about well, what would a clinton administration do to sweeten the pot to get the rest of the state to do the expansion coverage? how flexible would they be? what would that look like? now we're in a very, very different scenario. now there are two major conversations that are going to be happening, that are starting right now, and that will be occupying the attention of everybody who is interested in medicaid over the next several years. the first of which is repeal and replace

hsas are common with high deductible plans.ht years now, obamacare has been slowly working through the health care system. a lot of discussion that are part of the health care architecture. how hard it would be to pull back. >> let's talk about it. joining us now is ellis henican. best selling author. thank you for being with us. >> good to see you. >> repeal and replace. trump promised to two it if elected. republicans have control of congress. the new congress sworn in today. trump sworn in in 17 days. you know it will happen. the question is how much and how soon? >> how much is a branding question? christine was pointing out a lot of the elements of obamacare is engrained in the system. we will not get rid of the pre-existing rules. we are not going to bump all those kids in their 20s off their parents insurance. >> you have to pay for them. you have to show how you will pay for it. >> you don't have to call it obamacare. maybe what we'll see in the end is a lot of the stuff that people like. get rid of the things people do

from my point of view a good relationship with hsa and the shelter management through my day job i am able to interact with them on a daily basis. it's a very good benefit on behalf of the position i am seeking for the shelter monitoring committee. i seek spanish. it's much better after visiting mexico and i speak spanish. in terms what i want to get done. there are lots of issues affecting san franciscans without housing. one is the curfew policy of the shelters if someone goes to the hospital for a couple of nights they lose the bed and not able to get it back and things to look at and work with the board to adjust the legislation on the shelter monitoring committee so i don't know if there are there questions. >> i don't have any questions only because i got to work with you closely when you were on the shelter monitoring committee and i want to thank you as well on the imminent danger policy among other things but colleagues do you have questions or comments? okay. >> real quick i just want to say i do want to speak on behalf of applicant med -- ms. gains and there aren't women on

from my point of view a good relationship with hsa and the shelter management through my day job i am able to interact with them on a daily basis. it's a very good benefit on behalf of the position i am seeking for the shelter monitoring committee. i seek spanish. it's much better after visiting mexico and i speak spanish. in terms what i want to get done. there are lots of issues affecting san franciscans without housing. one is the curfew policy of the shelters if someone goes to the hospital for a couple of nights they lose the bed and not able to get it back and things to look at and work with the board to adjust the legislation on the shelter monitoring committee so i don't know if there are there questions. >> i don't have any questions only because i got to work with you closely when you were on the shelter monitoring committee and i want to thank you as well on the imminent danger policy among other things but colleagues do you have questions or comments? okay. >> real quick i just want to say i do want to speak on behalf of applicant med -- ms. gains and there aren't women on

under the new administration they're talking about larger hsa accounts.his is going to spark a huge debate. she's calling for transparency. nobody else wants transparency. >> do you take her at face value, that she genuinely wants to see change and transparency? >> i do. i think it's very easy to mall line a company very quickly over one product. it's harder for all of us as journalists understand it's the whole system. everyone is taking a cut of this system. there's transparency in an over-the-counter drug, right? there's no transparency in pharmaceuticals. more and more of us are getting older. we're using more medications to live longer. >> i can see patients looking at that -- i'm not doubting her sincerity -- as a patient, why do i have to pay so much? >> it's not just drugs, too. procedures cost more. the whole health care system. >> someone who had a procedure, i know what you mean. but how much does the epipen account for their entire business? >> mylan has about $10 billion in revenue, epipen is about $1 billion in that. they produce, more than

with these you pre-fund the hsa. take your daughter to the urgent care center and you have.the way, we also mandate price transparency. if you have two urgent care centers right next to each other and one is $150 a visit and the other is $75 you know that so you can be a wise purchasers. >> bill: numerous questions and i want to keep it as understandable as possible. in your experience, why do these savings accounts -- why are you pushing so hard for them? why do you think they're effective? >> you're spending your own money as opposed to someone else's. when you spend your own money, you are a wise purchasers. when you spend someone else's, not so much. it is like when my daughter goes to the mall with my credit card or when i go to the mall with my credit card. our purchases come back quite different. >> bill: the judge got a chuckle out of that. what do you do about the medicaid expansion in states? the republican governors have accepted this money as well. what do you do with that, sir? >> we allow that to go on a per beneficiary basis but with the amount the state recei

fargo did a good job of showing how they are seeing an uptick in utilization quality from hnas and hsas. and i think one of the most promising aspects of the new reform environment we're in is i hope we can broaden the utilization of those lessons. broadly speaking, we've been living in this era for about 50 years now where the central dogma of health care economics was handed to us on stone tablets by ken arrow at stanford, who said that the laws of economics were magically suspended when you talked about health care. and i think what large employers are relearning on our behalf is that the laws of economics are not magically suspended when we talk about health care. laws of economics apply to every good and service that's trance mitted in the economy. and if you give patients more control over the health care dollars that are being spent on their behalf, well, voila, you have a more patient-centered health care system. that shouldn't be surprising because that's how the rest of the economy works. but sometimes we struggle to appreciate these basic lessons in health care. so that's poi

there are a wide range of experts from the planning department, public health, hsa and so forth. also [inaudible] from sandra furors office. the first call from the legislation was to create a resource center for small businesses who wanted to convert their stores into healthy retailers so we created a centralized resourcesenter for them to go and learn about our program and learn about the resources available for them to convert the stores. there are links to the business portal that you are very aware of. and also serves as a way to share information with counterparts in cities across the country learning about this type of work. so, the 5 main components of the strategy for implementation is start with outreach. make sure business owners know the program exists to them so held community meetings for them to learn about the program, but also one on one referrals and by word of mouth, people refers businesses to us so create a list of businesses interested in the program. and then based on the list we nar eit down based on our resource squz then assess the business owner. again,

the way insurance agents show willed life insurance, sometimes, as wealth creation iras are sold hsasg is this going to take this is something people feel in pocketbook immediately, right all these the conversations what mayor saying you are saying are great how long to implement to seem feel ease you are talking about. >> we want to do it as quickly as possible we i think the effective date full repeal you replacement should be this congress frankly i look at it from the promise we made to the voters in election, we said we would get this done i think we need to get it done before next congress is sworn no, so let's do it quickly as possible, because we know harm it is causing females i can't give compact date repeal reconciliation bill to repeal i think reps he he relatively soon effective date is key i think should be quickly as possibly can. >> we leave it there good to see you thanks so much, jim jordan joining us coming up teeing up tax cuts stuart varney weighs in entrepreneurial spirit, back in a moment. this is the silverado special edition. this is one gorgeous truck. oh, di

from my point of view a good relationship with hsa and the shelter management through my day job i am able to interact with them on a daily basis. it's a very good benefit on behalf of the position i am seeking for the shelter monitoring committee. i seek spanish. it's much better after visiting mexico and i speak spanish. in terms what i want to get done. there are lots of issues affecting san franciscans without housing. one is the curfew policy of the shelters if someone goes to the hospital for a couple of nights they lose the bed and not able to get it back and things to look at and work with the board to adjust the legislation on the shelter monitoring committee so i don't know if there are there questions. >> i don't have any questions only because i got to work with you closely when you were on the shelter monitoring committee and i want to thank you as well on the imminent danger policy among other things but colleagues do you have questions or comments? okay. >> real quick i just want to say i do want to speak on behalf of applicant med -- ms. gains and there aren't women on

why do you think that the uk is far ahead of you and the deesclation tactics and the european union hsa has to do with when the european union formed the nations gave you their sovereignty and one of the conditions of joining was a commitment to human right we don't have this in the united states so once they committed to uniform unifying bodies of goals and aspirations that committed them to this. >> may i ask more questions. >> if i may jump if i know that obviously you have a very well respected history of involvement. >> that's age. >> not only from the academic studies but i mean as you cited our activism that has stemmed from early on in your life can you claeshl on your work you do teaching and writing how will you apply tour background to the role of a commissioner and the goals he pretty much parents on the commission today. >> well supervisor understand one thing i have tenure everything i write is about things i do not actually about - usually not about - writing what i've done or others should do i did that for example, when i was the president of the immigrant rights commis

why do you think that the uk is far ahead of you and the deesclation tactics and the european union hsa has to do with when the european union formed the nations gave you their sovereignty and one of the conditions of joining was a commitment to human right we don't have this in the united states so once they committed to uniform unifying bodies of goals and aspirations that committed them to this. >> may i ask more questions. >> if i may jump if i know that obviously you have a very well respected history of involvement. >> that's age. >> not only from the academic studies but i mean as you cited our activism that has stemmed from early on in your life can you claeshl on your work you do teaching and writing how will you apply tour background to the role of a commissioner and the goals he pretty much parents on the commission today. >> well supervisor understand one thing i have tenure everything i write is about things i do not actually about - usually not about - writing what i've done or others should do i did that for example, when i was the president of the immigrant rights commis

from my point of view a good relationship with hsa and the shelter management through my day job i am able to interact with them on a daily basis. it's a very good benefit on behalf of the position i am seeking for the shelter monitoring committee. i seek spanish. it's much better after visiting mexico and i speak spanish. in terms what i want to get done. there are lots of issues affecting san franciscans without housing. one is the curfew policy of the shelters if someone goes to the hospital for a couple of nights they lose the bed and not able to get it back and things to look at and work with the board to adjust the legislation on the shelter monitoring committee so i don't know if there are there questions. >> i don't have any questions only because i got to work with you closely when you were on the shelter monitoring committee and i want to thank you as well on the imminent danger policy among other things but colleagues do you have questions or comments? okay. >> real quick i just want to say i do want to speak on behalf of applicant med -- ms. gains and there aren't women on

there are a bunch of things we can do to fix, and a bunch of things will be done at hsa. reporter: -- repealing the taxes yet? rep. walden: you will see that, as part of reconciliation. i will defer to chairman brady. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] reporter: any decisions about taxes? rep. brandy: same approach. same approach. we have a chance to lay out the work. the last five years it has been house republicans. i got a chance to lay out our key principles of the blueprint, literallyn is designing a tax code for growth, jobs and economy. those discussions were very -- reporter: what did you learn about health care that you did ?ot already know about rep. brandy: what did they learn new? we have a number of new republicans in the house and senate. it gave them a chance to catch up on a number of nuances in health care, looking at the options going forward. so from that standpoint, and to have that discussion with the trumpet administration i thought was very helpful. reporter: [indiscernible] rep. walden: on the obamacare taxes, there has been big debate as you know bet

there are a bunch of things we can do to fix, and a bunch of things will be done at hsa. >> [indiscernible] greg walden: you will see that come as part of reconciliation. i will defer to chairman brady. [indiscernible] >> any decisions about taxes? kevin brady: same approach. we have a chance to lay out the work. the last five years since republicans have been in the house, we have got a chance to lay out our key principles of the blueprint, which again is literally a bill for growth, jobs and economy. those concessions were very -- >> what did you learn about the of fresh and of health care that you did not already know about the tax level force? kevin brady: what did they learn new? we have a number of new republicans in the house and senate. it gave them a chance to catch up on a number of nuances in health care, looking at the options going forward. so from that standpoint, and to have this discussion with the trump administration was very helpful. >> [indiscernible] kevin brady: on the obamacare taxes, there has been big debate as you know between folks who want to repeal all of the o

there are a bunch of things we can do to fix, and a bunch of things will be done at hsa. reporter: -- repealing the taxes yet? rep. walden: you will see that, as part of reconciliation. i will defer to chairman brady. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] reporter: any decisions about taxes?