joining us with his take is mitch daniels, former indiana governor and president of purdue universityk you for joining us. of the you make headlines that president obama would publicly support it better that's a better plan if the gop comes up with one -- publicly support a better plan if the gop comes up with one? >> i only heard what you just reported. from the sound of it, it is a comment by the president. for him to take an open stance on this bill in which he has invested so much is really very amendable. -- commendable. advocatess staunchest have faced up to the fact that it has not performed. it has failed on every parameter that it originally made promises about. we ought to be able to do better. that is true as a matter of health care policy and certainly true as a matter of fiscal and economic policy that will be more promising for the american future. vonnie: your state has one of advanced ideologically ways of delivering health care. would you have the indiana system adopted throughout the united states as part of this replacement or what would you have done? >> i would ce

mitch daniels, it's so great to have you on the show. thank you very much. getting out of town. >> oh,okay. then you won't be freezing whatever. whatever senator mccain said so eloquently. all right. thank you so much. >>> a look now at the plans for donald trump's inauguration week which will be scaled back compared to recent years. there will be three days of festivities compared to five for barack obama in 2009. three inaugural balls, far short of the record 14 set by bill clinton in 1993. and inaugural parade lasting 90 minutes, the shortest on record. still, trump associates say they have raised $90 million in private money that compares to $53 million raised for president obama's first inaugural with ten official balls. the donors to trump's will soon become public as a federal law passed under george w. bush requires presidents reveal names of contributors within 90 days of taking office. and though his term officially begins at noon on friday, trump said in an interview with the "times of london" that the workweek will begin in earnest next week sayi

burma is going to be the new cms director was originally, mitch daniels person who was the architect of they call it health in indiana which has done a very good job of getting health care to the poor that they can actually get and access. the problem with medicaid that a lot of people outside of state don't see is that most doctors won't take it. it's a loss leader. the hospitals have to but they don't want it and the doctors, a lot of the doctors won't take it. then we can talk about dentists and the rest. so there's a huge access problem that i think by giving states the ability to craft reforms, that are unique to interstates like we have badger care in wisconsin and those are two i'm familiar with, we can do a much better job of actually getting people not just affordable healthcare but actual access to health, not just insurance but healthcare and that is a problem with medicaid right now. it is a program with dire fiscal problems and it's a program that the provider community is struggling with. >> we are running out of time so let me step back and ask you a final big picture

amendment, one of the things that is interesting, since it is bill of rights day a couple years ago mitch daniels who was then governor of indiana gave a speech in which he said more people's attention is directed to the bill of rights by the national rifle association than any other group or people who turn to it. they read the whole thing and have greater appreciation for the importance of the constitution because particularly gun owners, second amendment friendly which comes up to in our calculations 55 million americans, base their belief in defense of their rights the bill of rights and that is important not just for the second amendment but the constitution, the bill of rights. >> one of the criticisms, the nras, to approach the amendment is rooted in the preparatory clause. read that, put it on the table and hear the response to that. here is the preparatory clause. the security of a free state, the gun rights are tethered. >> dangerous to take what a word means in 2015 and assume the word means the same in the 1780s. that question was exhaustively researched by scholars and addressed by t

that is interesting that i hadn't thought of since it is bill of rights day a couple years ago mitch daniels, the governor of indiana gave a speech in which he said i believe more people's attention has been directed to the bill of rights than any other people in the united states. people turned to it and read the whole thing and get a greater appreciation of the importance of the constitution because gun owners, people that are second amendment friendly which comes up to in our calculations about 55 million americans, base their belief and defense of their rights on the bill of rights and that is important not just for the second amendment but the constitution, the bill of rights generally. >> the text of the amendment, as you know, one of the criticisms, the nra is working, approach the amendments, rooted in the preparatory club which to read that, put it on the table, love to hear your response to those arguments, here's the preparatory cause. a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state and the argument is the gun right is -- >> very dangerous to take what wor

a few years ago mitch daniels who was then governor of indiana gave a speech in which he said i believes attention has been directed to the bill of rights by the nra than any other group for any other people in the us. because people have turned to it and then they read the whole thing and get a greater appreciation of the importance of the constitution. because particularly gun owners and people that are second amendment friendly which comes up to an hour calculation, about 55 million americans. base their belief and their defense of their rights, on the bill of rights.and that is important thing not just for the second amendment but for the constitution, the bill of rights generally. >> turned to the text of the amendment. as you know, one of the criticisms, sort of the nra à the gun rights community approached the amendment. really the preparatory club. so which to read that and put on the table let's hear your response to the sorts of arguments. here is a preparatory clause. a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state an argument in which the gun right i

that's interesting, i hadn't hadn't thought of this since the bill of rights day, a few years ago mitch daniels who was the governor of indiana and now the president of purdue and said i believe more people's attention has been directed to the bill of rights by the national rifle association than any other group or any other people in the united states because people have turned to it and then they read the whole thing and they get a greater appreciation of the importance of the constitution because particularly gun owners and people who are second amendment friendly which comes up to, and our calculations, about 55 million americans, they base their belief and the defense of their rights on the bill of rights and that's important not just for the second amendment, but for the constitution and the bill of rights generally. >> returning to the text of the amendment, just briefly, as you know, one of the criticisms of the nra, the gun rate communities approached the amendment is rooted in the clause. to quickly read that i put it on the table, i'd love to hear your response. here's the prefatory

mike pence and mitch daniels in indiana, the woman who's coming in to run the medicaid program at the level, seema verma, she made healthy indiana work, low-income people in indiana have health care coverage to get access to a doctor. those are what we want to see happen in all 50 states. that's not been happening under obamacare. so we believe we can dramatically improve the way medicaid works by giving governors more control and flexibility to innovate to make it work for people with low income because it's not working in so many states right now. >> with me, congressman john kbrr yarma, democrat of kentucky. >> greta. >> i've seen so many estimates on this wall from $8 billion to $14 billion. any time you put a billion on something, that's a whole lot of money. is this money going to be -- is this money going to come out of congress? are you going to authorize this? >> well, i suspect the republicans are in control and they'll be able to authorize it. i think it's a bad idea. i was part of the gang of eight in the house in 2013 that was working on comprehensive immigration reform.

our cochairs are governor mitch daniels, not the president of purdue, kim penny, leon panetta, democrat, republican, independent. this has been the head of the treasury department, the opposite of management and budget. the house of the senate budget committee. recently, it is a fiscal watchdog group with bipartisan leadership that has been involved in these issues. -- it know what it is like you as well as gette ideas and thoughts and notes for policymakers to be more fiscally responsible. >> our purpose in life is to talk about the things in budgets. along with you. -- the bigger things. >> i had no intention of doing this kind of work. i was working at it and can't and then i was working on wall street. i was looking at it in the mid-90's. who is on the about deficits. they are pretty slow to where we get access. i want to learn more about the issue. i started reading reports from the congressional budget office which i found fascinating. have always been a huge critical independent. i have not talked part of a peter -- even party. -- either party. i was not have the budget work. wha

so our co-chairs are governor mitch daniels now president of purdue, tim penny, leon panetta, democrat, republican, independent. and the board is made up of the people who have been the heads of the treasury department, the office of management and budgets the congressional budget office. house and senate budget committees. so basically it's a fiscal watchdog group with bipartisan leadership who have been involved in these issues so they actually know what it's like to have to legislation as well as give ideas and thoughts and zbruj our policymakers toy about more fiscally responsible. >> our purpose in inviting you to be here and our audience has seen many times is to talk about the little things in budgets along with the bigger things. but why do you want to do this kind of work and how long have you done it? >> yeah, so i had no intention of doing this kind of work. i was working at a think tank, then i was working on wall street and i was looking at -- it was the mid-'90s and kind of pay attention to the bond markets and talk about deficits that were pretty small then compared to w

you know, a good friend of mine, former indiana governor mitch daniels, used to say, you'd be amazed how much government you'll never miss. when talking about reducing the size of government bureaucracy. so much of government's excess is created by unelected officials who yield enormous influence over our everyday lives. last year federal agencies issued 18 rules and regular lyings for every one law that passed congress. 53 t's a grand total of 3,8 regulations in 2016 alone. in 2015, federal regulations cost the american economy nearly $1.9 trillion. t, trillion dollars in lost growth and productivity. think about that for a second. $1.9 trillion tax, government burden, on the american people. that means lost jobs, stagnant wages, and decreasing benefits for workers. my amendment looks to help change all that. very simply, my amendment requires every agency issuing a new rule to first identify, then repeal or amend at least one existing rule. to offset any annual costs, the new rule would have on the u.s. economy. this isn't some new radical idea. president-elect trump announced his

mitch mcconnell. so what's happening right now, have you seen a president so active on his first day in office? he has done a bunch of executive actions, daniellend alsoet with ceos, labor leads as well. >> absolutely. i thk what he's doing here is strategically really, really smart, and i think it makes sense. he's coming as a -- like he has policy positions from the left and the right, and the idea he's meeting with labor unions as a republican president, it's unheard of. and he's doing the job that america elected him to do. so kudos to donald trump on this. i'm not going to attack him just the fact he's a republican. liz: angela, we're looking at donald trump now, angela, talking to senator chuck schumer. nancy pelosi is there along with paul ryan. so this is a bipartisan meeting right now. >> because he doesn't just represent republicans. now he represents the united states of america, and i'm pleased that the democrats and republicans are coming together. because that's what it's going to take to save this nation. we're in trouble. we have so many people on the welfare, so many people with hopelessness and despair, we need to see a leader

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