newsha ajami is a research associate at the stanford woods institute for the environment, the director of urban water policy at the water in the west. macugen is a professor of economics at brown who is written quite a bit about transportation as ed mentioned. dan wilson on my right is at federal reserve bank of san francisco and speaks only for himself and not for janet yellen or anybody else at the fed. and cliff winston as our college or brookings. what i passed each of them to do is to say, pretty and we had a president of united states who has a short attention span. [laughter] and pretend that he ran for office saying i want to spend a lot more money on infrastructure. i pretend for a moment that may be a tax credit that was something that peter navarro thought up and will never resurface again. what would you tell him about how we ought to wisely spend the money, and based on what evidence? so i've asked each of them to give us a seven or eight minute spiel that it would give in the oval office and we'll have some interaction. it's putting a lot of pressure on the time to ask th