jennifer granholm is a former governor of the great state of michigan.t about messaging? >> i would give him a much better grade than a c or c-plus. he's the master at setting the bar and we'll see an a-plus performance. really i think what we'll see tonight is a bit of something for everybody from existing supporters. they'll like what they hear about the president in terms of keeping promises and also this unifying message for people who did not support them. we're going to hear a lot of that. in particular there's a line in the speech. i even only seen a small amount where he talks about everything in our country that is broke condition be fixed. there's a beautiful package that is a unifying theme. more important than that, it reminds voters he's a business man, a problem-solver and a fixer and it's really uplifting. >> governor granholm, first on the grade and a message as well. >> i think it would be amazing if he were actually unifying and he does have to speak to the whole country. it's not just congress obviously, but the people who are against

the panel, senator rick santorum and former michigan governor jennifer granholm.dent george w. bush was on the "today" show talking about the president's travel ban. >> a bed-rock of our freedom is a right to worship freely. >> for or against the ban? >> i am for an immigration policy that's welcoming and upholds the law. >> obviously a big division between george w. bush and donald trump on this issue. senator. >> look, there is a difference between me and george w. bush on this. he was for immigration reform, that wing of the party that has shrunk dramatically over the past few years. look, as far as the travel ban is concerned to me it's simple. i think the trump administration played it out badly. there is absolutely sufficient reason to suggest that, in the countries that they put forward, you can't do proper vetting because there is no nation-state to get the proper vetting done. and that, to hold and suspend immigration from those countries until we have the resources to be able to do proper vet something a very practical approach. >> interesting. so these

joining us is our panel, jennifer granholm former governor of michigan and jeffrey lord cnn politicalator and contributing editor at "american spectator." >> good morning, poppy. >> good friday morning. lots of news. >> yes. >> do you think, jeffrey, that kellyanne conway owed an apology to the president for that? >> i'm sure she probably felt that way. to be candid, i think this whole thing is ridiculous. >> why is it ridiculous, jeffrey? jason chaffetz, a republican along with democrats on the house oversight committee sent a letter to the government ethics office saying this is a clear violation of the ethics code. >> i understand. poppy, this is emblematic of an anti private sector feeling that has control of washington, sometimes frankly in both parties. what about the politicians who use their office for political profit to run for another office? why don't we start looking at how the political system works here instead of the private sector. >> jeffrey lore, that's not okay. does it make it okay for kellyanne conway to use time paid for by the american taxpayer to hawk clothing