. ♪ note ♪ ♪ ♪ >> during booktv's recent visit to fresno, california, we explored the thomas j. ebertr collection, which includes over 2,000 books on the american frontier, at fresno state university. >> well, when i was kid, the public library -- the only knock fiction books were books on the american wes in the children's library and since i've been a nonfiction person, i got -- i read everything that i could there on the american west, primarily a on native americans. over the years -- the '50s when i was growing up was a time when you had all the movies the theater, most of them cowboy movies and cowboys, programs on tv so you were sort of dish was a kid you were saturated with the american west. just fell in love with it. then in 1993, i began traveling through the west, and i just fell in love with it. and i quickly became -- came to understand that there was more than cowboy and indian fights. just the artist triof the landscape. the culture, the history and the really deep history, the history that involved so many different groups that it was a quite different west than what